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The Maverick – A Biographical Sketch of Judge Richard Posner: Part II, The Will to Greatness

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This is the second installment of a biographical profile of Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here. Beginning next week, a five-part Q & A series along with an interview with the author of a forthcoming Posner biography will be posted.

Note: Some of the links used below will open only in Firefox or Chrome but not in Safari. // Revised: 11-26-14 (10:50 pm)

The Friendly Connection

“Friendly and Posner have been cited by name by the U.S. Supreme Court, the U.S. Courts of Appeals, and the U.S. Districts Courts more often by far than any other circuit court judges.”  — William Domnarski (2011)

While much is known about Judge Posner’s high regard for Justice Holmes, much less attention has been devoted to his great respect for Judge Henry Friendly (1903-1983). For Posner, Friendly’s “photographic memory combined with his analytical power, energy, speed, and work ethic” produced “the most powerful legal reasoner in American legal history.” Or as Posner put it in a 1986 tribute: Judge Friendly’s “opinions have exhibited greater staying power than that of any of his contemporaries on the federal courts of appeal.” (99 Harv. L. Rev. 1724)

Between 1982 and 1986, the two jurists shared some 15,000 words in correspondence to one another (their letters have been preserved in the Harvard Law Library). Early on, in a May 12, 1982 letter to Posner, the 78-year-old Friendly praised the 43-year-old jurist: “I could not have dreamed of finding so perceptive a reader as you.” As Mr. Domnarski has aptly noted, “[s]oon Posner was comfortable enough to reveal some uncertainty in his work and ask for criticism that might help him. ‘On a more serious, even dismal, note,’ he writes, ‘I am enclosing a recent opinion I did on primary jurisdiction. I hope I got it right, but I felt a little unsure of the boundary between exhaustion and primary jurisdiction; and I would as always appreciate any comments, however critical, if you have time to read it. Pay no attention to it if I’m trespassing too much on your time.’”

A few years later, Judge Friendly was even more impressed with both the volume and quality of Posner’s judicial opinions.

Judge Friendly on Posner’s Judicial Opinions

“Every one is a masterpiece of analysis, scholarship, and style,” he declared in a September 19, 1984 letter. “About a year ago I said you were already the best judge in the country; having uttered that superlative, I am baffled on how to better it. If I could think of a way, I would use it.”

They wrote back and forth on topics ranging from railroad law to diversity jurisdiction and beyond. “Friendly and Posner were apparently so drawn to each other’s work,” says Domnarski, “that they wanted to see the other in action by having Posner come to Friendly’s Second Circuit and sit by designation. Posner had at first wanted Friendly to come to the Seventh Circuit to sit to take advantage of the rule allowing senior circuit judges such as Friendly to sit by designation in other circuits upon request and approval by the visited circuit’s chief judge.” Unfortunately, it never happened, though Posner did manage an occasional visit with Friendly whenever he came to New York and had the time.

Around Christmas of 1984, Judge Friendly inquired about Posner’s possible “elevation” to the Supreme Court. Even back then, Posner thought it doubtful. As he expressed it in a December 26, 1984 letter: “I have become an object of mysterious fascination to a segment of the press, which is doing a pretty good job of portraying me as a weirdo on the basis of some of my pre-judicial academic writing (misrepresented) and a handful of my opinions (misunderstood). Of course there is precious little I can do about any of this, but I am consoled by the thought that eventually the press will lose interest in me and move on to intrinsically livelier topics.”

Screen Shot 2014-11-21 at 9.33.44 AMAssuredly, Henry Friendly knew well what it meant to be a great judge but nonetheless passed up for a seat on the High Court. In a January 10, 1985 letter, he tried to console Posner: “These things are annoying but all this will pass. Unhappily this may not be without injury to your immediate prospects for elevation but I gather that you did not think these were very high in any event. You are wise to have acquired immunity for Supreme Court fever – a disease that has ruined many a judge.”

By 1986 it was over; Henry Friendly – old, depressed, and lonely – took his life. It was a great loss to the legal world. Worse still, his brand of judging was vanishing into the vapor of a past-tense world. Law, Posner wrote that same year, “is becoming increasingly politicized, bureaucratized, and specialized, and rising workloads are depriving more and more judges of time for reflection, discussion, and outside reading. These trends, which are unlikely to be reversed soon, bode ill for the continuation of our tradition of great judges. We may not see the likes of Henry Friendly again. The fullness of time may reveal that his passing marked the end of the classic period of American law.” (99 Harv. L. Rev. 1724,1725).

Friendly & Posner – their names sit well together. In some respects it is unsurprising that the two should have bonded as they did. They shared a common commitment to solving the riddles of the law in ways that lesser judges never do. Given their cerebral firepower and will to make the law more beholding to pragmatic reasoning, they stood almost alone in the camps of jurists.  Because of that, they also shared a common identity as the most highly regarded jurists of their time, though neither ever elevated to the Supreme Court.

As it turned out, Henry Friendly’s reputation struggled to survive the ravages of time (see, for example, Adrian Vermeule’s review of the David Dorsen’s biography of Friendly). Even so, traces of the Friendly legacy find new and invigorated meaning in the person and writings of Richard Posner, buttressed of course by the latter’s unique judicial temperament, stylistic writings skills, and economic modes of analysis.

Beyond their respective biographies (existing and forthcoming), someday someone will write a book of a collection of profiles of the great federal judges who influenced the law but never sat on the High Court (a book similar to G. Edward White’s The American Judicial Tradition). When that book is done, profiles of Henry Friendly and Richard Posner are certain to be included, if only because they helped to shape the law in ways that most Supreme Court Justices never have. And yet, when he was nominated, relatively little attention was paid to Richard Posner; it was as if all that he had already written were typed in invisible ink. He was just another nominee . . . or so it seemed to the Senate when it confirmed him.

Richard Posner’s Confirmation Hearing

Posner’s confirmation hearing took place on a Friday afternoon, in a joint session with four other nominees, and with only Chairman Strom Thurmond and the conservative Howell Heflin of Alabama in attendance. Posner’s part of the hearing took but a few minutes, and he was quickly confirmed without debate.  — Herman Schwartz, Packing the Courts (1988)

Judging Risks: Global Warming, Terrorism, & Abortion Protestors

UnknownHe crosses the street with Darwinian caution. While he may not be entirely risk averse, he is surely risk attentive . . . even though a side of him greatly admires Holmesian heroism of the kind the captain so valiantly displayed in the Civil War. In this general regard and others, one can turn to Posner’s book Catastrophe: Risk and Response (2004) to get an up close sense of his views on cost-benefit analysis.

Global Warming: Mindful of such matters, a decade ago Posner expressed serious concerns about global warming. In Catastrophe, he stressed that “a wait-and-see policy would be perilous.” Though he would surely shun an environmentalist name tag (too herd mentality like), the libertarian jurist cautioned: “Eventually, and perhaps sooner than later, the atmospheric concentrations may reach a level that triggers abrupt, catastrophic global warming – the kind that ended the Younger Dyras. No one knows what that trigger point is or when it will be reached (if ever), but it will be reached sooner if we do nothing, starting now, to reduce emissions.”

In reflecting on the respective environmental and economic factors, Posner was sensitive to the well-being of future generations:

Posner the “Environmentalist” 

Although there is a strong case for taking measures against global warming now rather than waiting decades to do so, the question remains what measures to take – how much cost to incur – and the answer depends in part on the weight to be given to the welfare of future generations, since it is most likely that the costs of global warming will be borne primarily by them.”

In that regard, he made a strong case for being “more future-regarding.” To put it another way, the law may belong to the living, but its impact will be on those yet to be born, to whom a duty is surely owed.

Terrorism: Lest Judge Posner be mistaken for a pie-in-the-sky liberal, his ideas on terrorism and civil liberties might readily prompt those of that ilk to pause before applauding him. Here again, his views on risk management are articulated in Catastrophe, and also in his Not a Suicide Pact: The Constitution in a Time of National Emergency (2006).

Posner has little patience for civil libertarians who hold that courts should actively police the constitutional boundaries between national security and civil liberties. “The strategy of civil libertarians,” he wrote in Catastrophe, “is to oppose the slightest curtailment of civil liberties. Their strategy may serve their fund-raising and other organizational goals, but it is questionable from an overall social welfare standpoint.” (See “Geoffrey Stone Debates Judge Richard Posner on Civil Liberties,” ACSblog, October 3, 2005, and “Legality and National Security,” Judge Posner’s remarks to ABA Standing Committee, May 9, 2006)

In United States v. Daoud (2014), a case involving a convicted American terrorist who attempted a “violent jihad” by way of bombing a building, Posner put his academic views to legal use. In Daoud the court denied the defendant access to secret warrant applications that allowed FBI surveillance of him. “The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,” wrote Posner, “is an attempt to strike a balance between the interest in full openness of legal proceedings and the interest in national security, which requires a degree of secrecy concerning the government’s efforts to protect the nation.” And then with characteristic bluntness he added: “Terrorism is not a chimera.” (The court later elaborated on its reasoning in a heavily redacted classified opinion.)

Posner Hypotheticals

Were it known that a terrorist was driving toward Chicago with a bomb, would you think it an improper restriction of civil liberties to stop and search all cars approaching Chicago, even though there would be no probable cause to suspect any given driver of carrying a bomb? Or suppose a kidnapper has buried his victim alive and refuses to tell the police where. A policeman punches him in the face to make him talk. Would you think the policeman had acted improperly?  (Source here.)

In a nutshell, Posner’s view is this: “Most judges know little about national security; the danger of catastrophic terrorism is real; and a constitutional decision forbidding a counterterrorist measure is almost impossible to change. It is better to leave these matters to be sorted out by the executive and legislative branches of government, where the relevant expertise resides.” Whether that is entirely so is, to be sure, open to debate as Jeffrey Rosen pointed out in his 2004 review of Catastrophe.

On a related front, there is also the question of the Wikileaks and Edward Snowden and their respective revelations of government excesses taken in the name of national security. Here again, Posner is not without an answer; he has his own take on whistleblowers and classified information. In November of 2011, while speaking at the Chicago Humanities Festival, Judge Posner told the audience: “I don’t think disclosure of classified information has ever been significantly harmful to American foreign policy and national security objectives. And indeed in many cases has helped them. On the other hand, I don’t think the efforts of the government to stifle revelation of classified material is consequential.”

Abortion Protestors: Harms, however, do not have to be catastrophic for Judge Posner to believe they may trump some claim of constitutional liberty. Take, for example, his criticism of the unanimous judgment in the recent Supreme Court buffer zone abortion clinic case. “Lecturing strangers on a sidewalk is not a means by which information and opinion are disseminated in our society,” he wrote in Slate. “Strangers don’t meet on the sidewalk to discuss ‘the issues of the day.’ (Has Chief Justice John Roberts, the author of the opinion, ever done such a thing?).”

Unwilling to leave it there, Posner cut to the realist quick: “The assertion that abortion protesters ‘wish to converse’ with women outside an abortion clinic is naive. They wish to prevent the women from entering the clinic, whether by showing them gruesome photos of aborted fetuses or calling down the wrath of God on them. This is harassment of people who are in a very uncomfortable position; the last thing a woman about to have an abortion needs is to be screamed at by the godly.”

Oh, how he abhors the sanctimonious! — be they conservative moralists or Ivy League ones.

Academic moralists pick from an à la carte menu the moral principles that coincide with the preferences of their social set. They have the intellectual agility to weave an inconsistent heap of policies into a superficially coherent unity and the psychological agility to honor their chosen principles only to the extent compatible with their personal happiness and professional advancement.Richard Posner, October 1997 (Harvard Law School).

The Art of Critical Thinking

Maverick. The word suits him. Unconventional, independent-minded, lone wolf, a man beyond brands, that is Richard Posner. No party can truly claim him, no orthodoxy can abide him, and no test-the-political-winds Senate Judiciary Committee would ever confirm him for a seat on the Supreme Court – he has too much professional pride to grovel and be evasive the way one must act to be confirmed. As to this matter, in 2003 he remarked (by way of an understatement): “I would have some trouble being confirmed today . . .” Ten years later, in an NPR audio interview, he was even more skeptical: “No,” he chuckled, “I’d be too controversial.” Professor Michael Dorf, among others, agrees:

Were Posner an unconventional judge merely in his willingness to articulate the practical consequences that drive his decision-making process, he might have been named to the Supreme Court. But two factors have prevented his elevation.” First, there is his “lack of ideological purity.” Second, there is his record of addressing, in books, articles, and opinions, “every hot-button issue of the day.”

Even if it were possible to push such a Sisyphean rock all the way up to a seat on the High Court, it would be a challenge for him to tolerate the homogenizing demands of compromise or the ideological barbs likely to come his way from certain brazen Justices. Then again, Posner is strategic enough to understand how best to survive (and thrive) in various environments, including a Hobbesian-like one. Still, he is at his best when his maverick side shines – be it in an unusual majority opinion, an unconventional concurrence, or in an uninhibited dissent. It is as odd as it is true: There is something strikingly American about this Ivy-League-educated intellectual who, like a roam-free cowboy, values his freedom too much to hand it over to those who would fence in his mind.

Ronald Coase (1910-2013)

Ronald Coase (1910-2013)

Just consider his own allegiances, tentative as they are: “I started out liberal, but became more and more conservative first during the turmoil of the late 1960s, which I found extremely repulsive, and then when I started meeting economists like [George] Stigler and [Ronald] Coase and [Milton] Friedman. I am less dogmatically conservative today, for example, on environmental (e.g., global warming) matters. I was never a social or religious conservative.”

See Richard Posner & Francesco Parisi, editors, The Coase Theorem (2013)

→ See also Ronald Coase, “Coase on Posner on Coase,” Journal of Institutional and Theoretical Economics (1993).

His independent spirit notwithstanding, Richard Posner is no William O. Douglas. Hardly. He would have to forsake his pragmatic credentials were he to emulate the judicial career of the Court’s most wily liberal. Though Douglas was a legal realist, he was not one who brought respect to that school of thought. He “flouted perfectly sensible norms of judging,” said Posner, and thus “helped to give realism a bad name.” Douglas was far too careless, so much so that he became something of an anti-judge. By stark contrast, Posner is too concerned with judicious behavior and the respective costs and benefits of consensus to be oblivious to it like Douglas was.

How does one build consensus and remain a maverick? That is the riddle that Judge Posner has devoted much of his academic and judicial career addressing. In the competitive and evolutionary struggle of human affairs, the realist gamble is that some measure of reason (not to be confused with utopian notions of “deliberative democracy”) will have the potential to move people in some sound way. To be sure, various stratagems may be necessary to help move things along, and in this regard Posner is acutely mindful of such matters as evidenced by the more than modest success of both his academic writings and judicial opinions. Still, he is also aware that sometimes it is important to break free of the pack in order to forge new ideas or level bold objections or simply to counter the growls of the “Great Beast.”

richard-posnerFor the Record            

So how much of a maverick is he? Well, he does like Albert Camus’ The Stranger (the novel that opened with these words: Mother “died today. Or maybe yesterday, I don’t know.”). Of course, no one could fairly fault the Judge for liking such an absurd work. As for his maverick credentials, and beyond any existential tendencies, consider the following snippets of his thought:

  • There are his views on God and atheism: “Well, I am one of those non-worshippers, but I have no interest in promoting a doctrine of atheism.”
  • There is his personal philosophy: “If I had some basic outlook, it would be that people are monkeys with large brains, period. And that’s the way you have to think about it. It does make me cynical about human motivation. You just have to be very practical, very realistic. I don’t put any faith in utopian dreams,” he stated in this 2012 Big Think interview. “I don’t think people are basically good or anything like that. . . . One has to have a caustic view of people, of all people. . . . [And] I very much dislike the extremes of left and right.”

Then there are his views of the secular gods:

  • Let us begin with his general opinion of the Supreme Court:

“Well, I don’t like the Supreme Court. I don’t think it’s a real court. I think of it as basically . . . it’s like a House of Lords. It’s a quasi-political body. President, Senate, House of Representatives, Supreme Court. It’s very political. And they decide which cases to hear, which doesn’t strike me as something judges should do. You should take what comes. When you decide which case to hear it means you’ve decided the cases ahead of time. . . . [T]he Supreme Court justices write very, very few majority opinions. Last year they saw 74 cases. Divide that by nine and that’s a little more than eight opinions a year. That’s ridiculous! I write around 90 opinions a year.”

  • Or what of his view of Chief Justice John Roberts’ majority opinion in McCutcheon v. FEC (2014)? “Can so naive-seeming a conception of the political process reflect the actual beliefs of the intellectually sophisticated Chief Justice? Maybe so, but one is entitled to be skeptical. Obviously, wealthy businessmen and large corporations often make substantial political contributions in the hope (often fulfilled) that by doing so they will be buying the support of politicians for policies that yield financial benefits to the donors.”
Justice Stephen Breyer

Justice Stephen Breyer

Whether the jurist is conservative or liberal is of no moment to Posner:

  • There is his take on the theories advanced by Justices Antonin Scalia and Stephen Breyer: “I don’t think these comprehensive constitutional theories” [he chuckles at this point] are worth the paper they are written on. I don’t think there is any content to . . . originalism [or] ‘active liberty’ or any of that stuff. It’s liberals and conservatives,” he said in another Big Think interview. Rather than concede their bias, he added, “they construct some elaborate rationalization. . . . I think these guys have feelings, you know, political feelings, moral feelings, [and] emotional feelings about . . . cases and they dress up their feelings in an elaborate way.”
  • And then more on Justice Antonin Scalia: “Scalia makes judging too difficult by telling judges to master and apply a baffling and ultimately fruitless system for avoiding engagement with reality. He is,” Posner adds in his book Reflections on Judging (2013), “a complexifier, though it is less likely that complexity guides his judicial votes . . . than that it conceals the biases that actually generate those votes.” [Not in the Shorter OED — Ever the nonconformist, Posner seems to have coined a new word with “complexifier.”]
Justice Scalia

Justice Antonin Scalia

See also “The Rise and Fall of Judicial Self-Restraint,” remarks at Brennan Center Jorde symposium at the University of Chicago Law School, April 14, 2011 (video remarks).

And what of the duties of those who interpret the canons of law?

  • There are his views of judges generally: “[G]enerally the judicial community is not like the academic community. Judges, my sense is, do not spend a great deal of time reflecting about what they do and why they do it in the ways that they do it. Think about continuing legal education for judges. It tends to be vocational.”
  • There is his intense dislike for commonly used legal catchphrases: “Among the many phrases I would love to see banished from the legal vocabulary, my first choice would be ‘plain meaning.’ [Lawyers only use it] when they’re dealing with an ambiguous document. So it is totally empty rhetoric.”
  • There are his views on statutory interpretation as he expressed them in his dissent in United States v. Markgraf (1984): “Legislators cannot foresee and solve in advance all the problems that will arise in the practical administration of the statutes they enact. The judicial duty of statutory interpretation is not a duty merely to read; it is a duty to help the legislature achieve the aims that can reasonably be inferred from the statutory design, and it requires us to pay attention to the spirit as well as the letter of the statute.” (See also David Lat, “Judge Posner on Statutory Interpretation: This Is How We Do It,” Above The Law, Oct. 19, 2012)

If some of these views seem a bit much to those on the bench or in the bar, Judge Posner has a ready reply: “I’m not fully socialized into the legal profession. I’m like an imperfectly housebroken pet.” Of course, it is possible that Posner was being playfully flip when he spoke those words to Larissa MacFarquhar in a revealing 2001 New York article (the one with the good Judge clad in a business suit and standing stoically in a doorway embracing his furry gray Maine coon cat). Be that as it may, this legal maverick has still other provocative views about life and law.

  • There is his view of comparable worth as set out in his opinion in American Nurses Association v. Illinois (1986): “On the cognitive question economists point out that the ratio of wages in different jobs is determined by the market rather than by any a priori conception of relative merit, in just the same way that the ratio of the price of caviar to the price of cabbage is determined by relative scarcity rather than relative importance to human welfare. Upsetting the market equilibrium by imposing such a conception would have costly consequences, some of which might undercut the ultimate goals of the comparable worth movement.” (Compare his rather liberal-minded comments on sex discrimination under Title VII as set out in Stuart v. Local 727, International Brotherhood of Teamsters (7th Cir., 2014).)
  • There is his view of the societal worth of indigent litigation as expressed in Lumbert v. Illinois Department of Corrections (1987): “[T]he problem of litigation that generates social costs in excess of its social benefits is particularly acute with respect to litigation by indigents, since they cannot be deterred from suit by the prospect of having to pay their adversaries’ legal expenses should the suit be adjudged frivolous. The problem is even more acute when the indigent plaintiff is a prison inmate, because the costs of a prisoner’s time are very low. [The Appellant] Lumbert, for example, has filed more than thirty lawsuits, all as an inmate, since 1980.”

To cap off this all-too-modest offering of Judge Posner’s views, there is his take on the legal academy and some of its work product – a topic that will be explored in one of my forthcoming interviews with the Judge. Until then, here is a sampling:

  • There is his view of legal theory, which he summed up this way: “I think legal theory is just baloney. I think you could take originalism, textualism, purposivism and just throw it out.” (See also his remarks at a Columbia Law School Federalist Society event, Oct. 18, 2012)
  • There is his view of Ronald Dworkin and moral reasoning, this as set out in a 2007 tribute to Dworkin: “As for Dworkin’s derision of pragmatism (philosophical as well as legal) — to which he has applied such terms as “dog’s dinner” and “empty,” comparing me both to a “bulldog” and to an “ostrich” (covering quite a lot of ground in the bestiary) — there we are at complete loggerheads. The fundamental difference between us is that he believes that there is such a thing as moral reasoning and that it should guide judges, and I, while not doubting that there is such a thing as morality and that it influences law, believe that moral reasoning is just a fancy name for political contention.”
  • There is his view of the legal academy, this as told to David Margolick of the New York Times in late November of 1981: “I think it is a failing of legal academics that they tend to write in a mealy-mouthed way, always protecting their flanks, always posing as reasonable, balanced, moderate people.”

And not to be overlooked, there is his controversial (and often misunderstood) article co-authored with Elizabeth Landes, “The Economics of the Baby Shortage” (1978), of which he once said: “Whenever critics of the law-and-economics movement want an example of its excesses they point to what is popularly known as [our] ‘baby selling’ article . . . .”

Elena Kagan on Posner’s Judicial Opinions

Love them, hate them, agree or disagree with them, Judge Posner’s opinions make people think — about what the law is doing, about what the law should be doing, about why it all matters. Law professors — actually, anyone who cares about our legal system — should esteem these opinions for this quality . . . . . — November 2007, Harvard Law Review

The Will to Greatness

There he stands: thoughtful, playful, analytical, cynical, exceptional, and habitually controversial. His final portrait would also include broad strokes of complexity, both personal and professional. But that time is not yet here, for there remains spirited breath in his lungs and many novel ideas tumbling in his mind, ideas that may yet blossom into the destiny that is ours to behold.

Meanwhile, one wonders:

  • How will his fate play out?
  • How will he be regarded when three or more decades divide the man and his life work from those who trade in the law of an unknown future?
  • Will the name “Posner” spring from the lips of impressionable young law students the way “Holmes” or “Cardozo” does now?
  • Will the judges of tomorrow take heedful note of his legacy or will he assume a nameless place alongside those whose star shown brightly while they lived but flickered away evermore with the dawn of each new generation?

Behind all such questions lies a clever but nonetheless sound admonition, namely, “the ‘past’ is what we make it.” Jerome Frank’s witty words (from his 1945 Fate & Freedom book) remind us that the past is still being shaped into what may or may not be a template for tomorrow’s “memory.” How history will judge Richard Posner will depend on how his thoughts align with the future and how his words resonate with those who have need to mold them for their own utility. (And a dollop of luck is always a vital ingredient.) No matter that the past is never what it once was; what counts is that it serve the living and hopefully these who follow them. If the benefits his legacy outweigh its costs, Judge Posner will be well served and long remembered. But only if – it is the wager of those who aspire to be great.

imagesEven as this series of blog posts unfolds and Domnarski’s 120,000 word biography nears, Richard Posner goes about his daily chores seemingly oblivious to it all. And in a sense he is — true to form, he is too busy to be concerned with what others think of him. In another sense, however, he has his eyes on it all. Why? Perhaps because ever since his youth Posner has yearned for greatness, for a place in America’s gallery of greats. More than anything else, that will to greatness may well explain the boy born of immigrant parents / the exceptional high school pupil / the gifted undergraduate  / the brilliant Harvard Law School student / the remarkable Supreme Court law clerk / the talented appellate lawyer / the illustrious law professor / the daring public intellectual / and the exceptional jurist known as JUDGE POSNER. Shy as he can be, he is not modest when it comes to his higher calling.

That said, he takes exception to such claims:

I have never yearned for greatness! In my youth I thought I would enter my father’s business after completing my education. When I did well at Harvard Law School I thought I would go to work for a law firm after clerking. I got deflected into working for the government, then was persuaded to try law school teaching, eventually to become a judge. I never yearned for or expected to be “great.” I’m not in a class with the judges I admire; moreover, the era of greatness for judges may well have ended, owing to changes in the nature of cases, the vast increase in the size of the judiciary, and other factors.

In the end, it may be best to echo the Great Bard’s words (albeit in expanded form): “[B]e not afraid: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon ‘em,” and some merely yearn for greatness.

Onward!

To be sure, there is more, much more (see, for example, The Posner Project). In the mix of it all, the Judge’s detractors – including those on the High Court, in Congress, and in the legal academy – will heap on him some of the same kind of criticism leveled against his favorite jurist, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes. And yet, like a steadfast soldier, he moves onward to the next battle. Or to vary the metaphor slightly and invoke Posner’s own words: “The path forward is the path of realism.”

In the next installment (the first interview in the series), Posner talks about his life and life views. Among other things, he discusses his parents, his interest in the poet Yeats, his Harvard Law School years, his Brennan clerkship, his years at the Department of Justice working under Thurgood Marshall, his view of the ’60s, his onetime thoughts on being a Supreme Court Justice, and his views on public intellectuals, morals, the New York Times, and popular music.   

Next Installment: “The Man Behind the Robes”


The Man Behind the Robes — A Q&A with Richard Posner

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I myself am a counterrevolutionary. I am not eager to be sent to the countryside to do farm work while wearing a dunce cap. (2009)

I’m much less reactionary than I used to be. (2014)   – Richard Posner

This is the third in a series of posts on Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here, and the second one here. (My interest in Judge Posner goes back almost a quarter century. See Ronald Collins & David O’Brien, “Gauging Reputations, National Law Journal, pp. 13-14, April 1, 1991 (commenting on Posner’s Cardozo book).)  

The measure of a man is gauged in different ways. For some, it moves along a spectrum of social approval. For others, it is personal perfection. For a few, it is mastery — that ability to excel in one’s life calling. And then there are those who take public service seriously. For yet others, it is legacy – that long story after the life story. In that journey, whatever one’s direction and destination, a few are bold into the fray, others calculating into the conflict, and still others are quiet into the clash. How we measure them depends on where we stand, how we judge the end game, and just how impartial we are. Then again, how we judge someone may reveal more about us than the person being judged. Bear all that in mind as you read the words of the man — an atypical  man — who is the focus of this and the other interviews.  

Richard Posner

Allen Richard Posner (see below)

How, then, to measure Richard Posner? It is not an easy task; he is complex. Because of that it is easy to misjudge him. Up close, Posner is unusual. For one thing, his candor can be unnerving. Thus, his personality in one-on-one situations can be odd, unless one is attuned to him, which requires being on his psychological wavelength. For another thing, he is somewhat unconstrained by many social mores. He is, for better or worse, a take-me-as-I-am sort of individual. But give him distance from the province of personality (conventionally defined), and he works well in the world of rules and reasons. That is his domain. In that realm, he appreciates informed judgment and delights in being daring. True to his cerebral bent, he loves to be rational (tag it Aristotelian eros), even if it leaves him the odd man out. In that sense, there is something peculiarly fascinating about him – that rara avis who seizes our attention even when we tend to turn away.    

What follows are the first in a series of questions I posed to the Judge about his life and life views. (Note: Some links will open in Firefox or Chrome but not in Safari.)

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Question:    Were you born Richard Allen Posner, or was Allen your first name? [Hat tip to Professor Peter Irons.]

Posner:       That’s true [about being named Allen]. But my parents always called me ‘Dick.'” [RC: The Judge has his law clerks address him as his parents did.]

Question:   You were exceptionally revealing in the New Yorker profile that Larissa MacFarquhar did back in 2001 – the story in which, among other things, you described yourself as “an imperfectly house-broken pet.” You also compared yourself to your late Dinah, “playfulbut with a streak of cruelty.” (Dinah has since died.) Two questions:

  1. Why? What prompted such unconventional candor?
  2. Do you have any regrets?

Posner:

  1. Larissa was very skillful at extracting unguarded comments from me. She is an excellent reporter. [RC: In a 2003 interview with Howard Bashman, Judge Posner said: “MacFarquhar. . . exaggerated my role in the law and economics movement, but that’s fine!”]
  2. No.

Question:      In what respects are you most like and unlike your parents?

Posner:         I share my mother’s love of literature, and my parents’ lack of religiosity (I believe the word “God” was never mentioned in our home). My father [Max] was introverted, like me. I didn’t share my parents’ politics, which were extremely left-wing. It’s unrealistic to think me much like my parents, as they were born in 1900 and 1901 respectively, into central European families with no money who immigrated shortly afterward to the United States. There is no comparison to my situation at and after birth, by which time (1939) my parents were prosperous, educated, and completely assimilated Americans.

Cleanth Brooks

Cleanth Brooks

Question:    You were an English major at Yale College and did your senior thesis under Cleanth Brooks (the famed figure of literary criticism). Your thesis was on William Butler Yeats’s late poetry. Why English, why Yeats? And tell us a little bit more about you senior thesis – its title and scope.

Posner:   My mother [Blanche] was a high school English teacher and started me off on literature when I was an infant — she read Homer and Shakespeare to me from a very early age. I majored in English at Yale because I was already steeped in literature and Yale had the best English department in the country. I discovered Yeats’ poetry and loved it and still do. I don’t recall the title of my senior thesis. I do recall the principal theme, which was that his poetry was “reflexive,” in the sense that much of it, I thought, despite its ostensible subject matter, was about poetry itself, which after all he new best.

Question:   What was your draft status? How did you navigate the whole military service matter?

Posner:    Deferment was automatic in my day (before the Vietnam War heated up) while one was a student. My first job after graduating from law school was as a law clerk at the Supreme Court. Justice Brennan, my boss, wrote a letter to my draft board before I started the clerkship asking it to defer me for the clerkship, which it did (it didn’t have to). During my clerkship year my wife had our first baby, and at the time (1963) that was an automatic deferment. I never heard further from anyone about the draft.

Alex Bickel

Alex Bickel

Question:    When you were the president of the Harvard Law Review (vol. 75, 1961-62), several prominent persons (e.g., Alexander Bickel, Felix Frankfurter, and Henry Friendly) published on your watch. Do you have any memorable stories you might share with us?

Posner:      Bickel was not a Harvard Law School professor (Yale instead), and I broke with tradition in asking him to write the Foreword to the Supreme Court section in the first issue.

I also got into some trouble with the faculty over publishing a very critical review by Frederick Bernays Wiener of an excellent revision [of Wigmore’s evidence treatise] by John T. McNaughton, one of the law school’s professors (later a key aide to Robert McNamara in the Vietnam War).

Question:       Were there any professors you had at Harvard who stood out in your mind? If so, who were they and why do you remember them?

Posner:         There were a number of excellent professors: in no particular order they were Paul Bator, John Mansfield, Abraham Kaplan, Derek Bok, Donald Turner, Walter Bart Leach, and (probably the best) John Dawson. I may have forgotten some others who were good. Turner’s field was antitrust, and he had a Ph.D. in economics from Harvard. We were friendly. To some extent, he sparked my interest in economic analysis of law.

Question:       How did Paul Freund come to select you for a clerkship with Brennan?

Posner:        He was an informal adviser to the law review so I got to know him pretty well, though I never had him in class. I was the president of the law review and the highest-ranking student by grades, so I was a natural pick for a Supreme Court clerkship. I didn’t apply—he just picked me. I actually wasn’t particularly interested in clerking.

Question:       You worked with Thurgood Marshall while he was Solicitor General. What was your opinion of Mr. Marshall back then?

Posner on Thurgood Marshall

He was a good boss in the sense that he backed the staff, which of course was all I cared about, but had rather little interest in the job. It was just a stepping-stone job. He had been a great trial lawyer, and I don’t think appellate law interested him particularly. Before becoming SG he was on the Second Circuit briefly, and after he was S.G. he, of course, was on the Supreme Court. I don’t think any of those jobs drew on his strengths, which as I say was as a trial lawyer.

 Question:      While in the S.G.’s Office you argued nine cases before the Supreme Court. Do any of those case stand out in your mind? Are you especially proud of your performance in any of them?

Posner:          I remember the antitrust cases, like Von’s and Schwinn, but I don’t really remember my briefs or oral arguments in them.

Question:     You were general counsel on President Johnson’s Task Force on Communications Policy. How did that come about and what sort of things did you do in that capacity?

Posner:       I probably was asked by the staff director, Alan Novak, but I don’t actually remember. My title of “general counsel” had no meaning. The task force had a small staff. I learned a lot of economics from our economist staff member, Leland Johnson, a very smart economist from RAND. I did most of the writing for the report. The report was influential in the deregulation movement, and also led to my being asked to do a good deal of consulting in telecommunication policy during my time as an academic.

Question:     What is your sense of the 60s counter-culture?

Posner:         I hated it; I still hate it.

Question:     Why?

Posner:      Infantile, amateurish, at times violent, disruptive of colleges and universities — I could go on.

Question:

  1. At the time or thereabouts, what did you think of Charles Reich’s article “The New Property” (1964)?
  2. And what was your view of his The Greening of America (1970)?

 Posner:

  1. I don’t remember that article.
  2. [As to The Greening of America, here is how I would describe it:] idiocy by a rather pathetic idiot.

Question:  Can you tell us a little about the vetting process re your nomination to the Seventh Circuit? What was it like?

Posner:      Nothing comparable to what it would be today; altogether more casual. I was called by Bill Baxter, a friend and former Stanford colleague who was the head of the antitrust division for Reagan (this was the beginning of Reagan’s first term), who asked me whether I’d be interested in being appointed to the Seventh Circuit, and after some consideration I said yes. I later filled out a form, had a pro forma interview by the deputy attorney general, an interview by an ABA committee, a five-minute confirmation hearing. That was pretty much it.

Question:   On Liberty, you have said, “is the best . . . statement of what I consider to be my own political philosophy . . . .” In brief, why is that so?

Posner:      Did I say that? I don’t think I would say it today.

Question:    Your full statement, circa 2003, was: “On Liberty is the best, as well as the best-known, statement of what I consider to be my own political philosophy (using political in a very broad sense, given Mill’s belief that public opinion is an even bigger threat to liberty than government is).” (There is more, and you can find it on page 197 of the Bromwich and Kateb edition of On Liberty.)

So, do you agree with your full statement as quoted? If not, say a few words about your own political philosophy and its main characteristics.

Posner:         I don’t know what I meant.

Question:

  1.      Being entirely candid, do you have any regrets about never having been selected to serve on the Supreme Court
  2.       For your purposes, what are the greatest challenges and benefits of being a judge on a federal appellate court?

Posner:

  1.     In the 1980s, I would have liked to be appointed to the Supreme Court; I think that’s a natural reaction of a newly appointed federal court of appeals judge. But I was wrong. I’m sure I would have disliked being on the Supreme Court. It’s not a real Court. I don’t like its case mix. It’s also very difficult sitting with so many judges (court of appeals judges almost always sit on panels of just three judges.) And I wouldn’t have liked to live in Washington again (I had lived there for six years in the 1960s.
  2.     Many of the cases are very interesting, colorful, often challenging, and I like to write. I very much enjoy both the oral arguments and writing judicial opinions; also the law clerks I hire, who are very smart.

Question:      What other career might you have pursued if not one in law?

Posner:          I toyed with the idea of becoming a professor of English literature. That would have been a really big mistake.

Question:      What is your overall opinion of the New York Times? What do you see as its particular strengths and weaknesses?

Posner:          Its editorials tend to be flaccid and mechanically liberal. But on the whole it’s an excellent newspaper.

I am a resolute nonreader of popular fiction, nonviewer of television, and non moviegoer. Richard Posner (1998)

Question:

  1. Do you still read poetry?
  2. Do you read fiction? If so, what sort of novels or short stories?

Posner:

  1. Yes, though not too often. I’m too busy.
  2. I don’t read too much fiction any more. I have read most of what I would be likely to enjoy, often more than once. But I have in recent years branched out some, partly because of a course in law and literature that I teach with Martha Nussbaum of the University of Chicago law faculty. I have read in that connection a good deal of Southern fiction, also apocalyptic fiction, currently fiction of the British Empire. Recently, I’ve been rereading the excellent mystery novels of Raymond Chandler and Ross MacDonald.
William Butler Yeats

William Butler Yeats

Question:      Below is a passage from Yeats’ 1920 poem The Second Coming.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre

The falcon cannot hear the falconer

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere

The ceremony of innocence is drowned.

The best lack all conviction, while the worst

Are full of passionate intensity

Say a few things, if you would, about what that passage means to you, or how it strikes you.

Posner:          He’s talking about the violence, instability, and rise of extreme political groups in the wake of World War I. The last two lines “The best lack all conviction” are prophetic of the fascist and communist movements and the cataclysm that was World War II. It’s a fantastic poem, one of the greatest ever.

Joy is of the will which labours, which overcomes obstacles, which knows triumph. – W.B. Yeats (undated journal)

Question:       What is your favorite Friedrich Nietzsche book?

Frederick Nietzsche

Friedrich Nietzsche

Posner:          The Genealogy of Morals (1897).

Question:       What is it about that work that is so special for you?

Posner:           It’s his key work, explaining his theory of how morality and particularly religion emerges from the efforts of the weak to hog-tie the strong (the natural rulers). The strong don’t need brains or cumulative intelligence; the weak do and achieve power by outsmarting the strong. An example is in Leviticus, where the best cuts of meat are reserved for the priests. Nietzsche is great.

Question:        Are morals relative? And what are your views of relativism? Are you a relativist (or even a quasi-relativist)?

Posner:            Obviously relative, differing from society to society. 

Question:       Have the writings of Carl Schmitt influenced your thought? If so, which of his works and why?

Posner:         I haven’t read him for a long time. I know I found what I read of him very interesting, but I don’t remember it.

Question:       You come across as somewhat of a solitary type. True?

Posner:           I suppose.

Question:      What time do you begin your workday and at what time do you end it? And how many days a week do you work?

Posner:          I begin around 9 a.m., sometimes later, and end sometime between 11:00 and 11:30 p.m. I work seven days a week.

Question:     Do you ever go away for a vacation?

Posner:         No, not in recent years.

Screen Shot 2014-11-02 at 11.15.03 PMQuestion:   What are your tastes in music? Classical (Mahler?), jazz (Miles?), other (Sondheim?).

Posner:       I like most classical music that was composed up until the middle of the twentieth century, ending, say, with Aaron Copland and Shostakovich. I like contemporary popular music a lot — Kelly Clarkson, Sara Bareilles, Taylor Swift, Adele, OneRepublic, Bruno Mars, etc.

Question:    Which two or three persons would you list as among the greatest public intellectuals of your lifetime and why would you consider them so? Perhaps William Buckley, or Gore Vidal, or what about Susan Sontag, or some three others?

Posner:         You’ve named three real losers. I wrote a book some years ago on public intellectuals. The book has long lists of them, based on number of references of different types. I suppose I would rank George Orwell number 1. There are many others.

Question:      Which American women in law would you list as among the greatest of contemporary thinkers? And why?

Posner on a few of the Great Women Legal Thinkers

Catharine MacKinnon has probably been the most influential woman in law. Of course there are many other influential woman lawyers, of whom Ruth Ginsburg is probably the best known and most influential. Elizabeth Warren is another major female figure in law. There are a number of excellent woman judges, such as my colleague Diane Wood; in fact half the active judges on my court are women, and they are all excellent. I don’t notice any significant difference between male and female judges.

Question:        What, in your opinion, has become of the Chicago School of Law and Economics? Has it fared well over time, or not?

Posner:   It’s certainly fared well over time — it is now pretty orthodox, at least in microeconomics.

Question:       Have you ever been overruled in case, which upon reflection, you thought the reversing Court had the better argument? If so, would you care to tell us the name of that case?

Posner:          Judges don’t look back; at least I don’t.

Question:   How do you select your law clerks?  Tell us a little a little bit about the process? Do your law clerks begin the review process? What exactly is your involvement?

Posner:       I just look at applications from a handful of the leading law schools. If I have a law clerk from the same school as a promising applicant, I ask that law clerk for an evaluation of the application. I rely heavily on evaluations from law professors whom I know. I interview a few applicants, but give little weight to interviews. The interviews are more for the benefit of the applicant. Usually I offer a clerkship to anyone I interview, and usually it’s accepted on the spot, although I make it emphatically clear to the applicant that I do not make exploding offers and there is no deadline for acceptance.

Question:     What, if anything, that is important to you have you yet to accomplish?

Posner:        I would like to see extensive reforms in law, along the lines I’ve advocated in books, articles, and judicial opinions. Success in those endeavors is a long time off. [RC: His answer continues immediately below]

The law is a very stodgy profession. I’m not optimistic about my ability to bring about significant change. 

Question:   Forgive me, but I did not ask you about your spouse (Charlene Posner) or your two sons (Kenneth and Eric). Is there anything you care to add on that score?

Posner:         The only member of my family whom I discuss publicly is my cat.

Pixie

Pixie

Question:   Okay, what’s so special about your cat? – that’s Dinah? She is the furry Gray Maine coon cat you posed with for a photo in the New Yorker Magazine. How do you interact with your feline?

Posner:       Dinah, alas, died of old age some years ago. Our current cat, Pixie, is also a furry gray Maine Coon. She is beautiful and very intelligent, like her predecessors, but has the distinction of being the first actually to like me. Not that her predecessors disliked me; they were indifferent.

Question:   Eleven years ago you told Howard Bashman that “at some point I will run out of steam.” So, how are you doing? Is there still much steam left in your stacks?

Posner:       As long as my physical health holds up and senility holds off, I will continue to work as I have. I am one of those people who dread retirement. I hope I won’t overstay my welcome.

Question:  In Aging and Old Age (1995) you wrote: “[A]s life draws to a close considerations of posthumous reputation loom larger in the rational individual’s utility function.”

Not that the Grim Reaper is lingering near your chamber, but do such considerations ever loom in your thoughts? Put another way, and to draw on a Holmesian allusion, has death plucked your ear? If so, share with us any considerations that may be lurking within you . . . like life after the Seventh Circuit.

Posner:      I have absolutely no interest in my posthumous reputation, as death is oblivion (or so I believe), and so no one ever discovers what his or her posthumous reputation is.

Coming this Wednesday: The next in the “Posner on Posner” Q&A series is a set of some 50 questions posed to Judge Posner by 24 noted legal figures (a journalist, judges, and law professors).

The Judge & Company – Questions for Judge Posner from Judges, Law Professors & a Journalist

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That’s a sensitive question to put to a judge.

                      – Richard Posner (see below)

This is the fourth in the “Posner on Posner” series of posts on Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here, the second one here, and the third one here.

Has any sitting appellate jurist ever entertained a wide swath of questions from a journalist, fellow judges, and law professors? The answer: Never, to the best of my knowledge. But if one had to pick such a jurist, Richard Posner would surely be (and is) that person. True to his realist image, he answered all of the questions posed to him and did so promptly and, for the most part, without reservation. 

In order to get a range of views from different perspectives, I invited a number of noted legal figures to pose questions to Judge Richard Posner. Twenty-four responded; they are:

  • Thomas Ambro
  • William Baude
  • Ryan Calo
  • Erwin Chemerinsky
  • Lawrence Cunningham
  • Michael Dorf
  • Barry Friedman
  • David Hoffman
  • Yale Kamisar
  • Judith Kaye
  • Hans Linde
  • Adam Liptak
  • Andrea Mays
  • Linda Mullenix
  • Robert O’Neil
  • Frederick Schauer
  • David Skover
  • Daniel Solove
  • Geoffrey Stone
  • Kellye Testy
  • David Vladeck
  • Eugene Volokh
  • Kathryn Watts
  • Adam Winkler

Their questions, organized into 26 topics, are set out below followed by Judge Posner’s replies. Hyperlinks have been added where useful. Note: Some links will open in Firefox or Chrome but not in Safari. –RKLC

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I.     Clerking for Justice Brennan

Professor Robert M. O’Neil: Perhaps your most remarkable contribution as a Supreme Court clerk for Justice William Brennan was the total change in the status of Gray v. Sanders (1963).  You initially drafted an opinion for the Justice that would have resulted in a decisive reversal of the Ninth Circuit ruling. But you quickly learned that the Court had preliminarily voted 7-2 to affirm. On the basis of your persuasive draft opinion, however, Justice Brennan promptly asked the Chief Justice to reassign the case. That soon resulted in a 7-2 reversal with only Justices Clark and Harlan dissenting.  Two intriguing questions arise:

  1. Given the oral argument and the statutory context, why were you so sanguine about the prospects for reversal?
  2. And how did you eventually persuade Justice Brennan and four of his colleagues to reach a wholly different result?

[RC: Professor O’Neil clerked with Justice Brennan when Posner did.]

Judge Posner:

  1. I wasn’t. I was under the mistaken impression that the Court had voted to reverse.
  2. I didn’t use any persuasion. When Justice Brennan read my opinion, he said it was persuasive and he’d tried to persuade the Court to change its vote from affirm to reverse. His persuasive efforts must have been effective, though I don’t recall his having said anything to me about them.

Professor Robert M. O’Neil:

  1. Among the Supreme Court opinions to which you made substantial and invaluable contributions, how would you appraise the Philadelphia National Bank (1963) case?
  2. To what extent did Justice Brennan or other members of the Court (or fellow clerks, or for that matter teachers like Harvard Professor Donald Turner) shape your views on those issues?

Judge Posner:

  1. Of the opinions I worked on, that was my favorite. I think it was influential on antitrust law and also convinced me to specialize in antitrust, which I did for the early part of my career, following the clerkship.
  2. The principal influence was Derek Bok, then a professor at Harvard Law School and later, of course, dean of the law school and later still president of Harvard University. He had written an important article on merger antitrust law, part of which I had cite-checked when I was on the Harvard Law Review. The article stuck in my mind and played a crucial role in my thinking about the Philadelphia Bank 
Justice William Brennan

Justice William Brennan

II.     Judging Justice Brennan

Professor Geoffrey Stone: You served as a law clerk to Justice William J. Brennan, Jr., a half-a-century ago. With the benefit of hindsight, how would you assess his contributions as a Justice?

Judge Posner: Obviously, he was very influential, in part because of his warm personality and willingness to compromise. I think Warren relied heavily on him. A number of the Warren Court’s most important decisions were his.

III.     Jurisprudence

Professor Frederick Schauer: When you were a law student, Lon Fuller was a major figure at the Harvard Law School, and only a few years earlier his published debate with H.L.A. Hart was a major event at the school and in legal scholarship generally.

Could you comment on your views about the contemporary state of Anglo-American jurisprudence, whether that state is different from what it was fifty years ago, and, if different, what might account for the change?

Judge Posner: I never met or had a class from Fuller, and never cottoned to his views, and I don’t remember whether I ever read that debate. I never took a course on jurisprudence and I don’t think I had any interest in it. As an academic I became interested in it and wrote about it.

I like your work in jurisprudence, and that of Neil Duxbury and a few others, but much of the jurisprudence literature I find rather sterile. I found Ronald Dworkin’s approach unconvincing; likewise with H.L.A. Hart’s. I love the legal realists, above all Holmes, but also John Dewey, Jeremy Bentham, of course, Hans Kelsen, and Richard Rorty (not an exhaustive list), though law was far from a major interest of Dewey and Rorty.

 IV.     Law in a Globalized World

Judge Judith Kaye (ret):

  1. What is the impact of our radically globalized world on the business of the U.S. courts? How is our jurisprudence, our decision-making process, in any way influenced by the cultural diversity of the international issues we increasingly face?
  2. In that connection, what is the impact of the increased use of alternative dispute resolution mechanisms in international matters, inevitably still requiring resort to our courts?

Judge Posner:

  1. We get more cases involving foreign and international law, but I think the influence of foreign legal practices on our jurisprudence and decision-making processes is slight. We continue to resist inroads into the adversary system. I think that resistance is a big mistake, but I also think it’s a mistake to look to foreign judicial decisions for guidance to how we should deal with issues such as capital punishment, abortion, and international human rights. I think one has to have a deep understanding of a foreign culture in order to be comfortable with borrowing a foreign country’s law.
  2. I don’t know; I haven’t studied the issue, and have only a few cases.

V.     Law & Economics

Professor Michael Dorf: I detect in your academic work (and to a lesser extent your work as a judge) a gradual drift from an economic analysis of law to pragmatism more broadly. Do you agree with that assessment, and if so, what do you think accounts for it?

[RC: Professor Dorf wrote the biographical entry on Judge Posner for the Yale Biographical Dictionary of American Law (2009).]

Judge Posner: You’re correct. It is partly a result of the inroads that psychology has made on economic analysis, partly a result of the economic profession’s failure to understand finance and monetary policy in the period leading up to the crash of 2008, and (relatedly) the revelations of unexpected extensive greed and corruption in American business, not limited to the financial industry.

Professor Ryan Calo: You are famously skeptical of the idea that the law should protect the efforts of market participants to conceal information about themselves. But the beauty of markets lies precisely in their ability to facilitate transactions between parties with wildly disparate backgrounds, tastes, and views — people who otherwise would avoid one another, but come together on the basis of a willingness to pay or receive a particular price.

How do you respond to the contention that a world without a meaningful degree of privacy in such situations would be a world full of balkanized, and hence deeply inefficient, markets?

Posner on Privacy

Judge Posner: I’m not opposed to legal protection of privacy. But I do regard privacy as a common means by which people present a misleading impression of themselves, often deceiving the people with whom they deal, either personally or in transacting. So I think we must be careful not to overprotect privacy.

Justice Hans A. Linde (ret.): You are widely known for linking law and economics and for advocating a pragmatic jurisprudence. These seem to pose two problems for a federal judge:

  1. Federal cases often arise from acts of Congress, not judge-made common law. What should a judge do when an enactment plainly places some people’s non-economic demands over the economic interests of the majority?
  2. Other disputes are between citizens of different states (or nations) that may have different legal answers to the disputed issue. How should a federal judge choose which state’s law applies to the case? That is, should a judge choose the laws of the state that is economically preferable, or is the choice prescribed by law?

MET-AJ-POSNER-0919Judge Posner:

  1. If a statute is clear, and constitutional, then I am bound. But the statutory provisions that get involved in appellate litigation very often are unclear, and then the judge has considerable freedom to select the interpretation that makes the most sense, though it won’t always be an economic sense.
  2. Conflict of law rules seem to me readily understandable in economic terms. If one thinks of the reasons for applying one state’s law rather than another’s, they generally have to do with which state has the greater interest in regulating the activity that gave rise to the suit. That’s the basis of lex loci delicti, which continues to be a sound doctrine that has largely survived modern loosey-goosey conflicts doctrine.

VI.     The Record of a Case

Professor Frederick Schauer: You tend to go beyond the record, the briefs, and oral argument more often than most appellate judges, and you have noted that you have been criticized for it. Could you explain your practice, explain the criticism, and explain why you think the criticism misses the mark?

Judge Posner: I find that the briefs and arguments, and lower-court opinions, very often do not answer the questions that I think are important to a sound understanding of the case. So, I look for the answers, often by an Internet search. I tell lawyers if you don’t like me doing that, do it yourselves. I do try to be sensitive to risk of error in judicial fact research. I understand the criticism, because the lawyers want to control the case. They invoke the glories of the adversary system. I think the adversary system is overrated. Not that I want to convert to the inquisitorial system that prevails in Europe (except the U.K.) and most of the rest of the world, but I want to see the adversary system taken down a peg. I am a big fan of Fed. R. Evid. §706, which allows a judge to appoint his own expert witness, as opposed to having to depend entirely on party experts.

VII.     Experiential Knowledge

Judge Thomas Ambro: In a recent ABA Journal interview with Joel Cohen you noted that you were “bothered by the fact that we judges often don’t know enough about a case to decide it sensibly, because often all we know is what the lawyers tell us, which is often very little.  And when we don’t have enough knowledge to decide a case in an informed way, we necessarily fall back on how we ‘feel’ about the case.”

In light of those comments, do you think it is a good idea for judges to rely at times on their past experiences (as a judge) and “read between the lines” when parties fail to provide the relevant information?  Or must judges categorically refrain from this type of decision-making?

Judge Posner: I think experience is actually more important for sound judicial decision-making than analytic acuity, that often indeed we judges don’t have enough knowledge to decide a case in a well-informed way just based on what the lawyers and the lower court or agency and doctrine tell us, that since our primary and inescapable duty is to decide the case we have to reach out for additional sources of information and often fall back on intuition or “feel” based on experience.

VIII.     The Future of Judging

Posner on the Value of Legal Doctrine

I think the role of legal doctrine in judicial decisions is considerably overrated.

Professor Daniel Solove: Do you think that judging will change in the future?  Holmes predicted that science would one day hold greater sway in the law, but it has been slow to penetrate law, which still remains largely governed by assumptions not backed up with real empirical evidence. (The great ones like Justice Holmes are also famous for their literary style.) But would the great judge of the future be a person of science, who decides cases by looking to the hard facts, studying empirical evidence, deciding cases more like a researcher would?

[RC: Professor Solove is the co-author of “Can Pragmatism Be Radical?: Richard Posner and Legal Pragmatism,” Yale Law Journal (2003).]

Judge Posner: Judging from my law clerks, young lawyers are increasingly likely to have strong backgrounds in science or technology, and that will eventually affect judging. I hope that will give decision-making a more rigorous empirical basis.

IX.     Ideology & Judging

Professor Barry Friedman: You’ve written a great deal about ideology and judging.  I’ve long been of the view – reflected in a course-book on Judicial Decisionmaking I’m co-authoring — that there are various features of our judicial system that mitigate the effects of ideology. These range from the fact that most cases of significance are decided ultimately by more than one judge, to panel effects on collegial courts, as well as the need to negotiate over opinions, to constraints imposed by the other branches, to the fact that many cases — particularly in private law — are less ideological, etc.

But as I came to the end of teaching this course for the first time this past semester, I found myself more troubled by ideology’s impact on judging than I had been in a long time. Here are two specifics that reflect my concerns:

First, in some important set of salient federal cases, at least in recent times, judges’ votes as to disposition can be explained largely by one variable: the party of the appointing president; and

Second, there are plenty of cases, including those raising issues that fall into the “first” category, that don’t get appealed or get summary treatment on appeal, meaning the case is resolved by one judge.

Either or both of these leave me disquieted about the judicial system. Can you put me at ease?  Or forget about me – what would you offer as a defense of the judicial system in light of these concerns?

Judge Posner: As one moves up the judicial hierarchy, from district court to Supreme Court (in the federal system), the cases become more difficult, as the easier cases are resolved at a lower level. When cases are difficult, the judges, lacking scientific or other rigorous grounds of decision (law is no science), necessarily fall back on their priors, which include ideology along with temperament, personal and career experiences, extra-judicial knowledge, religious beliefs, and so forth. Federal cases are becoming more difficult (or I’m slowing down—one of the two), so the priors are playing a larger role, including ideology. The society is increasingly politicized, and this certainly shows up in the judiciary. 

X.     Judging, Judicial Opinions & Judicial Decision-Making

Professor Robert M. O’Neil:  

  1. Given the process by which appellate opinions are typically drafted (whether primarily or wholly by law clerks or occasionally at least in part by the judge him or herself), how do you explain your own clear preference for self-crafted judicial statements?
  2. And to what extent did your own experience with Justice Brennan as a mentor shape your current approach to the drafting process?

Judge Posner:

  1. I like to write, and edit my writing, but I don’t like to edit other people’s writing, which I used to do a lot of when I was a journal editor. That’s the selfish answer. But I also think that clerk-written opinions tend to be inauthentic, dull, overlong, and excessively formalistic, though this certainly is not universally true. Not only are there many brilliant law clerks, but there are many judges who through painstaking editing of their clerks’ drafts produce really excellent opinions. But that’s an inefficient use of staff. Better for the judge to write his own opinion drafts, and have the law clerks do research and criticize and edit the judge’s opinion drafts. A judge who writes his own opinions will achieve speed, whereas law clerks, as inexperienced opinion writers fearful of making a bad impression on the judge, will waste a lot of time as opinion writers.
  2. My recollection is that he left the drafting to us (Bob O’Neil was my co-clerk); I don’t recall his doing much in the way of either guidance before we drafted or editing afterwards. I am told he did more editing and sometimes even drafted opinions when he wasn’t satisfied with the law clerks’ work.

Professor William Baude: In your experience, how does judicial decision-making differ in different societies, and why might societies choose to have different kinds of judicial decision-making?

Judge Posner: I don’t know much about foreign judiciaries, except the U.K.’s. I assume judicial decision-making varies primarily with the structure of the judiciary. In the inquisitorial systems the structure is bureaucratic; judges are appointed right after or shortly after graduation from law school (more precisely from a college major in law) to a junior judicial post and are promoted in accordance with how they are evaluated by their superiors. Procedure is informal, documentary evidence is strongly preferred, deference to legislatures greater because the legislators tend to be better disciplined. But these are just impressions.

XI.     Judicial Writing Style

Professor Daniel Solove: Has the quality and style of judging (or means of reasoning or ways of writing opinions) changed in the past few decades? Have you noticed any trends?

Judge Posner: I think opinions have become longer, more formalistic, and more uniform, also less colorful and less individual, as a result of the near-universal delegation of opinion writing to law clerks. The steady decline in the literary culture in America, and of knowledge of grammar, also show.

Professor Kathryn Watts: One of your opinions on administrative law — a case involving the containment of exotic animals, such as lions, tigers and ligers, on a farm in Indiana — is often used in administrative law courses when interpretive rules are studied. The opinion itself is not at all ground-breaking, but the facts as you describe them in the opinion are fun and colorful, making the sometimes dry subject of “interpretive rules” more interesting and accessible to students.

  1. Do you ever purposefully set out to write an opinion in a way that will maximize the teachable value of the opinion or the accessibility of the opinion to non-lawyers?
  2. And as someone who both writes judicial opinions and teaches law students, what kind of emphasis do you believe judges should place on speaking to and educating the general public when writing opinions?

Judge Posner:

  1. I can’t resist featuring curious or amusing facts in my opinions. And I do try to make the opinions as simple as possible, not so much expecting them to be read by non-lawyers as believing that really law is very simple (not a science, as I keep emphasizing) and that generally the best one can be said for a decision is that it’s sensible. That should be explicable in a way that a layperson can understand. I do not think about writing for the casebooks, in part because I don’t know any more what casebook editors are looking for.
  2. It’s unrealistic for judges to try to educate the general public. I don’t think the general public is interested in anything about judicial opinions except who won the case. But I think a clearly and simply written opinion is more helpful to colleagues, a higher court, professors, and students than one that uses legal jargon.

XII.     Who Owns a “Judge’s Papers”?

Professor Kathryn Watts: I recently wrote an article arguing that federal judges’ working papers—meaning their internal chambers’ papers and electronic correspondence and documents relating to cases and other official court business—should no longer be treated as the property of individual judges but rather should be viewed as governmental property.

  1. Do you see any reason why judges’ working papers and electronic correspondence and documents, which are created by governmental officials in furtherance of official governmental duties and often while using governmental resources and facilities, should continue to be treated as the private property of individual judges?
  2. And do you have plans for what will become of all of your own chambers’ papers and electronic correspondence and documents after you retire or leave the bench?

Judge Posner:

  1. I didn’t know it was our private property! I agree it should belong to the government and I have always assumed it did belong to it. I certainly wouldn’t claim any property right in the paper or electronic documents in my case files or archived e-mail. However, I think whoever the custodian is should protect certain confidences, especially communications between judges.
  2. No plans.

[RC: Posner’s papers are archived at the University of Chicago Regenstein Library.]

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XIII.     The Best & The Worst

Professor Yale Kamisar: In the area of constitutional criminal procedure, which judge (or judges) do you think has articulated the most pragmatic and rights-sensitive approach to this area of our jurisprudence? And why?

Judge Posner: I’m not sure “pragmatic” and “rights-sensitive” quite go together, as the latter term suggests a thumb on the scales. I wouldn’t put rights above security. Indeed my personal leanings are toward security, except that I think federal sentences are generally too long. My favorite judge in constitutional criminal procedure is Robert Jackson, who seems to me to have been extremely intelligent, experienced, and balanced in that field (as indeed in other fields). I’m not sure I have any other favorites.

[RC: Some of Justice Jackson’s criminal procedure opinions include: Frazier v. United States (1948) (dissenting), Watts v. Indiana (1949) (concurring & dissenting in part), Brinegar v. United States (1949) (dissenting), Shepherd v. Florida (1951) (concurring in result), On Lee v. United States (1952), and Irvine v. California (1954) (separate opinion).]

Posner’s Take on the Supreme Court

Well, I don’t like the Supreme Court. I don’t think it’s a real court. I think of it as basically . . . it’s like a House of Lords. It’s a quasi-political body. President, Senate, House of Representatives, Supreme Court. It’s very political. And they decide which cases to hear, which doesn’t strike me as something judges should do. [Source here]

Professor Geoffrey Stone: What do you think is the “worst” Supreme Court decision of the past decade, and why?

Judge Posner: That’s a sensitive question to put to a judge. Heller v. District of Columbia and McDonald v. Chicago for sure, and going back a few years Clinton v. Jones and Chevron v. Natural Resources Council.

Professor Eugene Volokh: Which Free Speech Clause precedents of the last 60 years do you think are the most misguided, and which do you think are especially sound? And why?

Judge Posner: The free-speech clause of the First Amendment has no real content, owing to its brevity, and society has changed too much since 1791 to enable any guidance to be obtained from practices relating to speech in that era. The idea that free speech protects burning the American flag, spending money to influence elections, harassing abortion clinics (the recent McCullen decision) (to choose just three of many possible examples) has no constitutional or pragmatic basis that I can see, and just reflects the political preferences of particular Justices.

[RC: A future post will be devoted to the First Amendment and freedom of expression. Among other things, in that post Judge Posner comments on the campaign finance cases.]

Professor Andrea Mays: Seen through the lense of the law and economics movement, what are the two best decisions the Supreme Court has made in the past decade?

 Judge Posner: A good question, to which I don’t have a good answer.

XIV.     The Life & Mind of a Public Intellectual

Professor Michael Dorf: For a judge, you are very active as a public intellectual, but are there topics you would choose to write about if you were not a sitting federal judge?

Judge Posner: I would be more outspoken about what seem to be serious failings of American government, including the judiciary.

Dean Erwin Chemerinsky: You have written dozens of books, thousands of articles and judicial opinions. Which do you think is most important and why? If there is just one that you could have most widely read, which would it be?

Judge Posner: I suppose my treatise Economic Analysis of Law, now in its ninth edition, is my most important book, in terms of influence. I couldn’t pick out a most important article or most important opinion, because there are too many for me to remember all of them (hundreds of articles, as you say, and approximately 3000 judicial opinions).

XV.     Constitutional Rights & Business Corporations

Professor Adam Winkler: Business corporations must have some constitutional rights, such as property rights, due process, and press freedom. Yet corporations do not have the right to vote or to run for office. Conceptually speaking, and current doctrinal law aside, what considerations ought to be paramount in determining which constitutional rights business corporations should have and to what extent?

Judge Posner: I don’t know whether corporations should have any constitutional rights, although in truth I’ve never thought about the issue. I should think that the constitutional rights of persons employed by, owners of, creditors of, etc. would be adequate to protect legitimate business interests. But as I said, I haven’t thought about the question.

XVI.     Antitrust Law

Professor Andrea Mays: Do you think the majority got it right in Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey v. United States (1911)? How would you have decided the case?

Judge Posner: Yes. The Standard Oil Trust was a monopoly, and there was no economic justification for it. Its constituent companies did just fine when the trust was dissolved.

[RC: For a recent opinion in the antitrust field, see Judge Posner’s opinion in Motorola Mobility LLC v. Au Optronics Corp, et al (Nov. 26, 2014). News item: Jonathan Stempel, Fox News, Nov. 26, 2014]

XVII.   Class Actions

Professor Linda Mullenix: Regarding the moldy washing machine cases, many class action plaintiffs’ attorneys have now seized upon your decisions in those cases to assert that it is entirely acceptable to assert no-injury claims, and that the no-injury class action is permissible and here to stay.

Did you really mean to announce that individual claimants with no injuries can pursue class claims? If so, how does this square with constitutional standing principles?

Judge Posner: I don’t understand the question. Of course there has to be injury. That doesn’t mean every class member can establish injury. But class actions wouldn’t be feasible if the injury of every class member had to be established before the court decided whether the case was suitable for class action treatment.

UnknownProfessor David Vladeck: Many believe that much of the most interesting work you have done as a judge is your work on law and economics. For example, you wrote an opinion overturning class certification in the Rhone-poulenc Rorer (1995) case because you thought aggregate litigation placed too much pressure on defendants to settle. Still, nothing in Rule 23 really embraced that consideration, though your opinion was nonetheless quite influential. Now that you have had time to reflect on that decision, do you have any second thoughts?

Judge Posner: I adhere to my view. I thought the value of my opinion was that it helped stimulate the promulgation of Rule 23(f), which allows appeals from grant of class certification, since once certification is decreed the pressure on the defendant to settle will usually be overwhelming.

Professor Linda Mullenix: At a 2014 symposium on class action litigation at George Washington University Law School, Elizabeth Cabraser gave the keynote address in which she described how your class action jurisprudence had evolved from being the arch-villain of class litigation (e.g. Rhone-poulenc Rorer) to your being the hero of the plaintiffs’ class action bar.

How do you square your former views on class litigation with your recent spate of class action decisions favoring class certification of products liability and other mass tort cases? Why should an efficiency rationale trump all other class action considerations?

Judge Posner: I don’t see any conflict. I have stressed in my recent decisions that the class action device is susceptible to abuse by the class action bar and there could also be collusion between class counsel and defendants. But I believe that class actions play a very important role in law enforcement.

XVIII.  Mandatory Forum-Selection Clauses

Professor David Hoffman: Experts in Delaware law are focused this year on the limits, if any, of Boilermakers Local 154 Retirement Fund v. Chevron Corp. (2013), which upheld mandatory forum selection through corporate bylaws. Some believe that the next step will be arbitral clauses built into firms’ bylaws, limiting or eliminating class-wide derivative suits, and (arguably) reducing the likelihood of deterrence of corporate abuse and fraud. What do you think are the primary legal and economic considerations in such cases?

Judge Posner: I worry that consumers and employees don’t understand such clauses.

Professor David Vladeck: There is an argument that ubiquitous mandatory arbitration of cases in entire areas (employment, civil rights, etc.) deprives the federal courts of their rightful role as interpreters of federal statutes. It has also, at least arguably, decreased the workload of federal courts.  What are your views about whether these are healthy trends for the federal courts?

Judge Posner: I suspect unhealthy. I don’t think most federal judges are overworked.

Professor David Vladeck:

  1. Absent fraud, duress, and the like, do think that there are limits to waiver? The Seventh Circuit has upheld very broad waivers in employment and consumer contracts, including the right to sue, the rights to a jury trial, and to punitive damages.  Where are the limits, if any, on waiver-by-contract, especially in contracts that are take it or leave contracts?
  2. In this regard, do you worry that contract law will displace statutory and common law doctrines?

Judge Posner:

  1. I think judges have to be alert to the limited understanding of legal forms by laypersons.
  2. Not total displacement, but inroads yes.

XIX.     Judging Journalists

Adam Liptak: Your 2003 opinion in McKevitt v. Pallash is viewed by most press lawyers as a turning point in what had until then been a reasonably successful campaign to persuade courts that the First Amendment, at least sometimes, protects journalists from the compelled disclosure of their confidential sources. As you pointed out, that campaign was based on an ambitious reading of the Supreme Court’s 1972 decision in Branzburg v. Hayes. “A large number of cases conclude, rather surprisingly in light of Branzburg,” you wrote, “that there is a reporter’s privilege.”

But these same press lawyers often overlook three other features of your opinion. First, the McKevitt case did not involve confidential information. Second, where confidential information is involved, you said it is “obvious that the newsgathering and reporting activities of the press are inhibited when a reporter cannot assure a confidential source of confidentiality.” Third, you wrote that “the Constitution is not the only source of evidentiary privileges” and “there might be a federal common law privilege for journalists that was not based on the First Amendment.” Judge David Tatel embraced such a common-law privilege in a 2005 concurrence.

  1. What do you think is the right way to balance the competing interests of the justice system in obtaining evidence and of the press in obtaining information?
  2. What sources of law should judges look to in weighing the question?

Judge Posner:

  1. I don’t think it’s possible to generalize. I think the judge just has to balance the competing interests. I know that’s mushy, but it’s the best I can do.
  2. I don’t think there is a source or sources. There are competing interests that have to be adjusted to each other. A lot of law is like that. I think the role of legal doctrine in judicial decisions is considerably overrated.

Richard-PosnerXX.     The Fourth Amendment Exclusionary Rule

Professor Yale Kamisar: Many years ago, before becoming a federal judge, you wrote an article forcefully criticizing the Fourth Amendment exclusionary rule. Do you still feel the same way about the search and seizure exclusionary rule today?

Judge Posner: Yes, especially with the emergence of really effective federal tort remedies for unreasonable searches or seizures. That is far superior to excluding what is often highly probative evidence.

[RC: For a listing of some of Judge Posner’s judicial opinions re the exclusionary rule, go here (and search “exclusionary rule”)]

XXI.     Eleventh Amendment Doctrine

Professor David Skover: The Supreme Court’s 11th Amendment doctrine has tottered on a delicate balance at least since the ruling in Seminole Tribe of Florida v. Florida (1996) narrowed the powers of Congress to abrogate state sovereign immunity by exercise of its Article I powers.  Subsequent decisions have appeared theoretically confusing and doctrinally inconsistent. For example, consider the abrogation effected “in the plan of the Convention” recognized for the Article I Bankruptcy Clause [Central Virginia Community College v. Katz (2006)] versus the refusal to validate abrogation under the Article I Commerce Clause [Seminole and Alden v. Maine (19990] and the Progress of Science and Useful Arts Clause [College Savings Bank (1999)].

Conceptually speaking, where do you come out on the Congress’s powers to abrogate state sovereign immunity by its exercises of Article I powers? Please explain.

Judge Posner: I haven’t thought about your question. I find it a little difficult to take seriously the notion of state “sovereign” powers. I recognize that the Constitution gives the states some attributes of sovereignty, but they have to be very limited to enable the society to function effectively. This is a single country to an extent it was not when the Constitution was originally ratified. The Fourteenth Amendment greatly, and I think rightly, curtailed state sovereignty.

XXII.     Article III Standing Doctrine

Professor David Skover: The Supreme Court’s contemporary standing doctrine — owing much to Justice Scalia’s separation-of-powers theories — has been criticized by many legal scholars (and sometimes subverted by lower-court judges) given its skewing effects in public law cases. Among other objections, the standing doctrine operates to the advantage of the targets of administrative agency action, who can typically prove personal injury in fact, and to the disadvantage of third-party beneficiaries of administrative regulation, whose risk-defined and probabilistic harms are often viewed as mere public-interest claims constituting generalized grievances.

What is your perspective on the workings of the contemporary standing doctrine?  Is it appropriately designed to ensure justice for rights claimants in public law cases, whether constitutional, statutory, or administrative in nature?

Judge Posner: I haven’t encountered the problem. I’ve written opinions [RC: see, e.g., American Bottom Conservancy v. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers] saying that probabilistic injury suffices for standing, and I can’t recall cases in which I thought the standing doctrine impeded access to the courts by someone having a tangible interest in litigating a case. Maybe I’ve forgotten, though.

XXIII.  The Law of Contracts

Professor David Hoffman: In 2003, your son argued in the Yale Law Journal that the “economic analysis has failed to produce an ‘economic theory’ of contract law, and does not seem likely to be able to do so.” Do you agree with Eric, and, if so, how would you describe the current state of contract doctrine in the United States, if such a thing exists?

Judge Posner: I’ll have to ask him what he meant! As far as I’m aware, the common law of contracts is economically sound.

Professor Lawrence Cunningham: Challenges continue to mount about how rational people behave in fact, in both contracting activities and conduct that can produce disputes involving torts. Should law reflect behavioral reality or is assuming rationality nevertheless the correct stance for contract law and tort law to take?

Judge Posner: Yes, we have to deal with behavioral reality. Economics will have to adjust to the inroads that psychological research has made into the rational choice model. The model is too severe.

XXIV.  Legal Education

Posner on Legal Education

Legal education today is too theoretical.

Dean Kellye Testy: There are demands for increased clinical and skills education for J.D. students. While these are costly forms of education, there is at the same time immense pressure to reduce the cost of legal education. How do you anticipate this tension will/should be resolved?

Judge Posner: I think we need a lot more than that. Legal education today is too theoretical, and there is too little utilization of clinical methods where they are most needed, for example in teaching evidence and procedure, both areas where the federal rules (the usual focus of those courses) do not capture the reality of the courtroom.

Dean Kellye Testy: Legal education in the U.S. has been very J.D. centric. Do you anticipate that U.S. law schools will increasingly offer other forms of legal education?  If so, how do you see that affecting the strength of J.D. education?

Judge Posner: I would like to see the law school curriculum include a lot of non-legal material (not necessarily taught in the law school) that should be required for students who don’t have a good technical background.

XXV.    Legal Scholarship

Dean Kellye Testy: Legal scholarship is largely “unfunded” in the sense that there are very few grants available for legal scholarship (unlike, say, medical research). How do you think the pressure on costs of legal education will affect subsidization of the scholarly work of law professors?

Judge Posner: I don’t know.

XXVI.  Career Moves

Professor Lawrence Cunningham: Our audience on this blog includes a large number of aspiring or recently appointed law professors.

  1. What career advice do you have for them?
  2. Which, if any, of your career moves would you like to have to do over again?

Judge Posner:

  1. I would suggest eschewing constitutional law, an overcrowded field, excessively politicized and theorized.
  2. None, actually.

The next Q & A post in the Posner on Posner series will be the fifth one and will appear this coming Monday; it is titled “On Legal Education.” The one following that is “On Judicial Reputation: More Questions for Judge Posner.” And three posts follow thereafter.

On legal education & legal scholarship — More questions for Judge Posner

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We should not allow complacency about the American university system to blind us to the weaknesses in legal education.

I am not starry-eyed about the new interdisciplinary legal scholarship. [Even so,] where is it written that all legal scholarship shall be in the service of the legal profession? 

The decline in doctrinal scholarship is relative, not absolute, and perhaps not even relative; all that may be occurring is a shift in the production of doctrinal scholarship toward scholars at law schools of the second and third tier.

Richard Posner (1995)

This is the fifth installment in the “Posner on Posner” series of posts on Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here, the second here, the third here, and the fourth one here.  

Richard Posner’s scholarly career in law may have started in 1961-62 when he served on the Harvard Law Review, first as a staff member and then as the President. During that period he published on topics as diverse as a note on the application of international law to outer space (74 HLR 1154), a comment on federal review of state law rulings (74 HLR 1375), a comment patent and antitrust law (75 HLR 602), and a comment on the application of law to religiously owned property (75 HLR). After his clerkship with Justice William Brennan (1962-63 Term) and several jobs with the federal government, he began his professorial career at Stanford Law School in 1969 and thereafter ventured off to the University of Chicago Law School where he is currently a senior lecturer in law. Over the years he has taught antitrust, economic analysis of law, civil procedure, conflict of laws, law and science, evidence, and law and literature.

Screen Shot 2014-12-02 at 2.03.58 PMOne of his articles ranked 64th in the list of the most-cited law review articles of all time. In the field of antitrust law, one his articles (co-authored with William Landes) ranked second in the listings of the most-cited law review articles. (Posner had his own system of rankings.  See here) Even more impressive, as reported by Fred R. Shapiro and Michelle Pears, “[a]s of 2000, Judge Posner was the most often-cited legal scholar of all time with 7,981 citations, nearly 50 percent more than anyone else.”

In the last half-century or so, Posner has published a wide variety of scholarly works in the form of books (40-plus) and articles (300-plus) – perhaps more than any academic writing in the field of American law. In that array of legal literature he has written much on the topic of legal education and legal scholarship. See, for example, the following nine articles by him:

  1. The Present Situation in Legal Scholarship,” 90 Yale Law Journal 1113 (1981)
  2. The Decline of Law as an Autonomous Discipline,” 100 Harvard Law Review 761 (1987)
  3. The Deprofessionalization of Legal Teaching and Scholarship,” 91 Michigan Law Review 1921 (1993)
  4. The Future of the Student-Edited Law Review,” 47 Stanford Law Review 1131 (1994)
  5. William M. Landes & Richard A. Posner, “Heavily Cited Articles in Law,” 71 Chi.-Kent L. Rev. 825 (1996)
  6. Past-Dependency, Pragmatism, and Critique of History in Adjudication and Legal Scholarship,” 67 University of Chicago Law Review 573 (2000)
  7. Legal Scholarship Today,” 115 Harvard Law Review 1314 (2002)
  8. Against Law Reviews,” Legal Affairs, Nov-Dec. 2004
  9. The State of Legal Scholarship Today: A Comment on Schlag,” 97 Georgetown Law Journal 845 (2009)

Below are some questions on the topics of legal education and legal scholarship I posed to the Judge followed by his replies. (Note: Some links will open in Firefox or Chrome but not in Safari.)

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Question: What do you think is the single greatest shortcoming of legal education in America today?

Posner: There are several shortcomings; I don’t know how to rank them.

  1. Legal education is too expensive, in part because law school faculties are too large.
  2. Not enough law professors, especially at the elite law schools, have substantial practical experience as lawyers, and
  3. Law school teaching focuses excessively on legal doctrine, to the exclusion of adequate attention to facts, business practices, science and technology, psychology, judicial mentality and behavior, legal practice, and application of legal principles.

Question: Insofar as the teaching of legal ethics is concerned, is teaching the rules of professional responsibility and the cases interpreting them enough in your opinion? Or should some significant attention be devoted to familiarizing law students with some of the great works of the Western Philosophical tradition? – say, to Plato’s Gorgias or Aristotle’s Rhetoric (see here at p. 1924)

Posner:  I don’t consider instruction in legal ethics an important part of legal education. Aristotle’s Rhetoric is pertinent to the rhetorical dimension of legal practice, rather than to legal ethics. Gorgias can be read as critical of lawyers’ tricks, though there were no lawyers as such in fourth century b.c. Athens.

Question:  It has been argued that legal education is akin to learning a form of science. In what ways, if any, does it make sense to speak of the study of law as the study of legal science?

Posner: Law has nothing to do with science. It involves making and applying rules of conduct; the rules are based on legislative and other political decisions, common sense, societal values, judges’ personal preferences, intuition, rhetoric—not logical or scientific rigor.

Question: All things considered, what do you think of calls for reducing law school education to two years?

Posner:  I think that would be fine. A third year might be offered, but as something to be taken after the two-year graduate has spent some time in practice and wants some specialized further training.

Question: In your opinion, how, if at all, has the role of the law school dean changed in the past half-century? And if it has changed, what do you make of it?

Posner: Much more emphasis on fund raising.

Question: In Tagatz v. Marquette University (1988) you noted that tenure “tends to take some of the edge off academic ambition.” What are your views on the current tenure system as it operates in law schools and how, if at all, might you change it?

Posner: Tenure is a form of nonmonetary compensation, hence attractive to universities. The downside is it undermines the work ethic. I don’t know whether the benefits exceed the costs.

Question: (1) What are your views concerning affirmative action and tenure standards when it comes to promoting racial minorities? And do democratic principles justify bending evaluative standards?

(2) Is the problem of race the problem of the evaluative standards that law schools employ? If so, what is the alternative?

Screen Shot 2014-12-07 at 11.45.07 PMPosner:  (1) The only racial minority in the United States that needs affirmative action is the African-American minority. I doubt, though, that African-Americans who have the competence to be considered as law professors need a boost.

(2) I think law schools should give more weight to practical experience in hiring law professors, but I don’t think this relates particularly to African-Americans.

Question: Many years ago you wrote: “not all blacks are culturally black.” Would you a say a bit more about what you meant by that and do you still hold to that view? In answering that question, do you think that one can ever fully escape the consequences of his or her color even if one is, as you put it, an “assimilated black”?

Posner: I’m sure that almost all African-Americans are conscious of and think occasionally about being black—that’s inevitable given history, and it’s the same reason that secular Jews, who may have zero interest in Judaism or Jewish culture, remain conscious of being Jewish. But successful upper-middle-class African-Americans are so much like their white counterparts as not to be preoccupied with the racial difference.

Question: Is Socratic “cold call” method dying in law schools? Or is it already largely dead? If so, is this a good thing? Your views?

Posner: I think the traditional Socratic method was great. It created a form of active learning very valuable to the students. I regret its decline.

Question: Much of the law of contracts is taught by way of appellate cases. Some have argued that much more transactional and economic materials need to be included, perhaps even to a substantial degree. What are your views on this?

Posner: I can see value in a course on complex commercial transactions. I wouldn’t try to stuff that material into a first-year contracts course.

Question: Do you think constitutional law should be taught in the first year? If so, why? If not, why not?

Posner:  Absolutely not. It’s a terrible field, dreadfully politicized.

imagesQuestion: Casebooks, especially in public law, have changed considerably since you were in law school. Today, they are considerably longer (often nearing 2,000 pages) and contain far more note materials. What do you make of this?

Posner: A big mistake, the note materials especially. It distracts from the student’s need to learn how to read judicial opinions intelligently. For that they need the opinions, with minimal editing, not notes.

Question: What, if any, lasting impact do you the Critical Legal Studies movement has had on law and on the legal academy?

Posner: Zero.

Question: Insofar as interdisciplinary legal scholarship moves well beyond the doctrinal frame of knowledge of many student law review editors, what is the best way to evaluate that kind of scholarship at the outset? Is there a practical way, and if so, what would that be?

Posner: The domination of academic law journal publication by students is a scandal.

Question: A major service provider for electronic submission to law journals now asks questions about gender, racial identity, sexual orientation, and economic hardship. Well?

Posner:  Absurd.

Question: Today considerable emphasis continues to be placed on legal scholarship, which consists mainly of publishing in law journals. That emphasis affects everything from salaries to tenure to upward mobility. What is your take on that? Do you find it problematic in any real way?

Posner: I would like to see considerably more emphasis on teaching, which would incidentally enable reductions in the size of law school faculties and hence in the cost of a legal education. Most published legal scholarship is ephemeral, especially in constitutional law, an analytically weak and excessively politicized field.

Question: Much public law scholarship today seems to be premised on the idea that many Warren Court opinions constitute the jurisprudential baseline. Do you agree? And if so, is that baseline changing and what does that portend?

Posner: The Warren Court was revolutionary, so it is inevitable that its legacy would attract a good deal of attention.

Question:  You have used the words “advocacy scholarship” in some of your writings — for example, you once referred to one of Professor William Eskridge’s books as a “model of advocacy scholarship.” What exactly do you mean by that?

Posner: Law professors making academic arguments for changing the law, usually changing constitutional law. I have written articles and books advocating legal changes, though usually not in constitutional law.

Question: Given your understanding of advocacy scholarship, was the 1890 Warren-Brandeis Harvard Law Review article of that genre?

Posner:  Yes,it argued for a law change — the recognition of a tort of invasion of privacy (of course nothing to do with the right of privacy declared in Roe v. Wade).

Question: What about Hebert Wechsler’s Neutral Principles article? Was it of that genre?

Posner: No. Wechsler was arguing that Brown v. Board of Education was wrong, but I don’t think he was advocating that it be abandoned; the “separate but equal” horse had left the stable.

Question: Might any of your articles be fairly described as “advocacy scholarship”?

Posner: What I wrote in the 1970s about antitrust and regulation would be the clearest examples. [RC: see e.g., Posner, “The Social Costs of Monopoly and Regulation,” 83 J. Pol. Econ. 807 (1975).] I’m sure many since then, but they don’t come to mind.

Question: You have posited that “[a]cademic law is no longer a strong field in the sense of having objective standards . . . .” Please elaborate.

Posner: Did I suggest it was ever strong? If so, I was mistaken. Law is an interesting and important field, but it is also a weak field, and this limits the potential of academic law. Not that there aren’t useful syntheses in different areas of law, and useful borrowing from economics, psychology, and political science.

Posner on Understanding Judges & the Judicial Process

Many academics . . . who write about law don’t understand judges, including Supreme Court Justices. Or, especially if they are law professors, [they] do understand but think it would be impolitic to speak frankly about judges. [It] is very important, however, that you be realistic about judges, otherwise you won’t know how to communicate with them . . . . The way the academic . . . talks about judges, whether they believe it or not, is that they think of judges [as] being like academics. [Judges are] looking for correct answers to questions that arise in cases. They differ only in that they are not as smart as academics. We know they are not as smart because merit plays a smaller role in judicial selection than in academic selection. . . . The academics tackle questions they think they can answer. They pick their topics with a view to the feasibility of making progress on a particular topic. But the judges make decisions in cases that come at them randomly. So the judge’s duty is to decide, even if the judge has no idea what a correct sensible decision would be in a case, or a decision congenial to the judge’s views. The duty to decide is fundamental, and that makes a tremendous difference to how one thinks about problems, and what one brings to the problems . . . .  (October 23, 2014, University of Chicago Law School remarks)

Question: In 1990 you suggested that doctrinal scholarship was in decline. Has that trend continued, and if so, what are your views on the matter?

Posner: By doctrinal scholarship I mean scholarship focused on particular legal doctrines, a kind of scholarship potentially of considerable value to lawyers and judges. I think it is in decline because law professors become increasingly interested in abstract theory.

Question: There seems to be no end to scholarship on originalism, be it of the liberal or conservative variety. Why do you suppose that is and what is your opinion on the matter?

Posner: It’s an aspect of the preoccupation of the legal academic community with the Supreme Court, for it is mainly in relation to constitutional provisions that the debate over originalism rages. The preoccupation has very little value, and originalism is largely a fake, concealing the political preferences that drive most constitutional adjudication, owing to the political stakes and the extreme vagueness of key constitutional provisions.

imagesQuestion: (1) Brent Newton, the Deputy Staff Director of the U.S. Sentencing Commission, maintains that the legal “academy — both in terms of its preparation of law students to enter the profession and in the type of scholarship its professoriate is producing — has lost its practical moorings.” Given that this is a topic you have explored, what is your response to that?

(2) In Overcoming Law you suggested that in past times there was a certain “self-identification of the professoriat with the practical profession.” By and large, do you think that remains so today? If not, what are the consequences of any such change?

Posner: (1) I agree.

(2) No. The professoriat has grown apart from the practicing areas of the profession. It is more abstract, more populated by refugees from academic fields such as philosophy and economics, whose interest in the practical side of law is slight.

Question: Who would you list as among the best scholars writing in jurisprudence in the last twenty years and why?

Posner:  I no longer follow jurisprudence closely.

Question: In retrospect, are there any aspects of your extensive scholarship about which you now have serious misgivings? If so, what are they?

Posner: Excessively conservative, and insufficiently attentive to psychology and to the politicization of much of law, and an excessive faith in the economic analysis of law, and insufficient interest in facts and the real-world context of litigation.

The next installment, the sixth, in the Posner on Posner series was originally slated to be “On Judicial Reputation.” I have, however, decided to hold that post and run the “On the First Amendment” post first, which will appear this Wednesday (December 10th). 

By way of a topically unrelated aside:  for a brief clip of a recent exchange between Judge Posner and Professor David Cole (this as part of a Cybercrime Symposium at Georgetown Law Center), go here. (ht: Orin Kerr)

On Free Expression & the First Amendment — More Questions for Judge Posner

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 The American concept of freedom of speech poses a challenge to the pragmatist because, like ‘democracy,’ it is the repository of a great deal of unpragmatic rhetoric. It is at the heart of the American ‘civil religion,’ a term well chosen to convey the moralistic fervor in which free speech is celebrated. — Richard Posner (2003)

This is the sixth installment in the “Posner on Posner” series of posts on Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here, the second here, the third here, the fourth here, and the fifth one here.  

Here, as elsewhere, controversy is never far from the conceptual corner where Richard Posner lingers. Merely consider, for example, the following point he made in a 2001 article: “political free speech is not an unalloyed blessing.” Or consider his take on the most famous line from NYT v. Sullivan — he tags it (see below) “empty rhetoric.” Or think about his views on privacy and the First Amendment (see Glenn Greenwald’s criticisms below). Such comments are sure to raise skeptical eyebrows among the rah-rah First Amendment crowd.

Then again, that crowd happily hails the Judge for the robust defense of free speech he displayed in NAACP v. Button (1963), which he takes credit for authoring while he was a law clerk to Justice William Brennan. And then there are his opinions in cases such  American Amusement Machine Association v. Kendrick, the violent video game case. For staunch conservatives, such as Justice Clarence Thomas, protection of such expression “does not comport with the original public understanding of the First Amendment.” No matter, Posner paves his own path, sans any Hugo Black-like passion in defense of free speech or any Clarence Thomas-like zeal in defense of originalism.  

Of course, there is more to be said about Posner’s pragmatic approach to our free speech jurisprudence, and on that score some will approve and others not. In the tumble of it all, he remains a Maverick, which is how he likes it.  

Some of the Judge’s more notable writings on free expression can be found in the following works:

  1. Economic Analysis of Law (9th ed. 2014) (chapter 29)
  2. Not a Suicide Pact: The Constitution in a Time of a National Emergency (2009) (chapter 5)
  3. Law, Pragmatism and Democracy (2003) (chapter 10)
  4. Frontiers of Legal Theory (2001) (chapter 2)
  5. The Speech Market and the Legacy of Schenck,” in Lee Bollinger & Geoffrey Stone, eds., Eternally Vigilant: Free Speech in the Modern Era 121 (2002)
  6. Pragmatism versus Purposivism in First Amendment Analysis,” 54 Stanford Law Review 737 (2002)
  7. Free Speech in an Economic Perspective,” 20 Suffolk University Law Review 1 (1986)

For a sampling of his First Amendment opinions, go here and search “First Amendment.”

Below are some questions, on the topic of free expression and the First Amendment, that I posed to the Judge followed by his replies. (Note: Some links will only open in Firefox or Chrome.)

NB: A segment of this post, quoting a well-known journalist, has been temporarily omitted because of a strong objection. I will explain why in this Monday’s post.      

Question: Is speech overprotected by our courts and in our culture?

Posner: I think so. The most notorious example is expenditures on political advertising — Citizens United and its sequels.

Question: Though the Pentagon Papers Case (1971) is much celebrated in First Amendment circles, you seem to think that the Court might have gone too far. Two questions:

  1. What is your criticism of the case?
  2. Does over classification of national security information raise a a First Amendment issue?

Posner:

  1. I don’t think there is a right to read classified material. National security classification is one of many sensible exceptions to freedom of speech, along with threats, trade secrets, defamation, distribution of child pornography, lawful wiretapping and other lawful searches for communicative material, copyright infringement, and much else.
  2. It could, if there were no security justification.

Question: The so-called “war on terrorism” is unlike the Great Wars in that the enemy is ever changing and even hard to identify and the duration of the conflict is indeterminate. How does this affect the calculus of free speech “in wartime”?

Posner: I don’t see why the nature of the military conflict should make a difference.

Question: You have written that “some restrictions on speech actually promote speech.” That general idea seems to be getting some traction among egalitarian-minded liberal scholars dissatisfied with certain tenets of current free speech doctrine. Can you say more about your thinking here, especially as it might apply to the liberal defense of speech restrictions?

Posner: An obvious example is copyright protection, which restricts speech (the speech of copiers) but promotes speech overall by granting legal protection to original speech. Another obvious example is restricting the number of speakers in a political debate so that the debate won’t degenerate into an unintelligible babble of interruptions. Similarly one doesn’t want to allow the use of threats to silence people. A subtle example is the censorship of the Elizabethan theatre, which may well have promoted creativity by forcing playwrights like Shakespeare to situate contemporary problems in exotic times and places, in order to get by the censor.

Question: You pride yourself on being a “balancer,” as one who compares the social pluses and minuses of restrictions on free speech. Can you be an effective balancer absent a reliable record of the actual or even conjectural harms and benefits of speech? And what if the lawyers, as if often the case, tender no reliable empirical evidence one way or the other? Who wins, where is the conceptual default? Or must the reviewing court do its own research to resolve the question?

Posner: I don’t know how much empirical work has been done on the subject. In its absence, there is just guesswork, although the basic structure of American free speech law seems okay. Some of it strikes me as silly, notably granting rights of free speech to school kids.

Question: Whatever its shortcomings, one of the benefits of a category-based approach to free speech (combined with certain tailoring tools, e.g., overbreath, etc.), is judicial efficiency. The rules are not unworkably open-ended and subjective, and are therefore relatively manageable for judges and lawyers alike.

  1. Mindful of that, how judicially efficient is your economic-based approach with its assorted variables? – e.g., taking into account and balancing the relevant benefits (B), harms (H), offensiveness (O), probability (P), the number of years between when speech occurs and when the harm is likely to materialize, and the administrative costs of a regulation (A).
  2. What about lawmakers, the focus of the First Amendment (Congress shall make no law . . . )? How likely are they to engage in such sophisticated cost-benefit analysis? Is your proposed approach a realistic test for them to employ in considering the constitutionality of proposed laws affecting speech?

Posner:

  1. One can hardly exclude offensiveness, other harms, probability of harm, remoteness of harm, etc. from consideration, any more than you can do that in an ordinary tort case.
  2. Do lawmakers ever do sophisticated cost-benefit analysis?

Question: In cases such as Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project (2010), is the purported harm so great as to preclude any meaningful balancing? It was precisely that concern that prompted Justice Stephen Breyer to complain in dissent: “I believe the Court has failed to examine the Government’s justifications with sufficient care. It has failed to insist upon specific evidence, rather than general assertion.”

How would you weigh in on this? By your standards, was Holder a case of failed balancing?

Judge Learned Hand

Judge Learned Hand

Posner: I haven’t read the case.

Question: You have expressed some conceptual approval of Judge Learned Hand’s opinion in United States v. Dennis (1950) in which he upheld the convictions of eleven Communist Party leaders for violating the Smith Act. Do you agree with the judgment in that case? Please say a few words about why you agree or disagree with the Dennis judgment.

Posner: Hand’s formula in Dennis is I think fine—it is a variant of the famous Hand negligence formula from his opinion in Carroll Towing. The Communist Party leaders were essentially agents of the Soviet Union, so I don’t see why their speech should be thought privileged by the First Amendment.

Question: Don’t phrases like “clear and present danger” (which, by the way, was used by the attorney Benjamin W. Shaw in 1918) invite, as Paul Freund suggested in 1949, a kind of mantra-like application devoid of the kind of realist and pragmatic balancing you endorse?

Posner:  It’s a dumb phrase. A murky remote danger could be very great.

Question: Based on what you know in light of the book you edited on Holmes, did he get the judgments right in Schenck, Frohwerk and Debs?

Posner: Probably not in Schenck or Debs; I don’t recall Frohwerk.

Question: “Thus we consider this case against the background of a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open . . . .”

Do you consider those lines from New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964) to be “unpragmatic rhetoric”?

Posner: Empty rhetoric.

 Question: The Rehnquist and Roberts Courts have said relatively little about textualism when it comes to free speech and press issues. Why do you suppose that is?

Posner: There is no text. “Freedom of speech” is a heading, not a test.

Chief Justice John Roberts

Chief Justice John Roberts

Question: The Roberts Court has rendered 36 First Amendment free expression rulings. How would you characterize the First Amendment jurisprudence of the current Court?

Posner: Very nice for fat cats and enemies of abortion.

Question: You have long been on record as being a critic of the Court’s decision in Buckley v. Valeo (1976). You maintain that the “American system of campaign financing is extremely porous and is widely and probably correctly believed to constitute a thinly disguised system of quasi-bribes of elected officials; at the very least it tilts the playing field very steeply toward the wealthy and the well organized . . . .” Given that, how bad in your view have things become in light of rulings such as McCutcheon v. FEC (2014)?

Posner: Very bad.

Question: Do you favor some kind of constitutional amendment to remedy the problems you have identified

Posner: [The idea of a constitutional amendment is] a waste of time.

Posner on Roberts

Can so naive-seeming a conception of the political process reflect the actual beliefs of the intellectually sophisticated Chief Justice? Maybe so, but one is entitled to be skeptical. Obviously, wealthy businessmen and large corporations often make substantial political contributions in the hope (often fulfilled) that by doing so they will be buying the support of politicians for policies that yield financial benefits to the donors. [Source here]

Question: In his dissent in McCutcheon v. FEC (2014), Justice Breyer declared: “the First Amendment advances not only the individual’s right to engage in political speech, but also the public’s interest in preserving a democratic order in which collective speech matters.” What is you view on this idea “collective speech” and the First Amendment?

Posner: A little high-falutin’ for my taste. I would just say that large corporations and wealthy people shouldn’t be allowed to buy elections.

Question: Despite your criticisms of Buckley and its progeny, you have also expressed serious doubts about campaign finance reform proposals. Please explain why you think such efforts are problematic.

Posner: Have I? I don’t recall

Question: In Frontiers of Legal Theory you wrote: “Individuals or groups that have more money than the average amount of money have always had more than the average ability to spend money on trying to influence public opinion. We do not consider such inequality a compelling reason for limiting free speech.” Do you still believe that?

Posner: The mere fact of inequality is not critical. And it would be very difficult for a new candidate to get launched without access to substantial donors. The problems are the concealment of the identity of big donors, the implicit quid pro quo (donor is buying influence, and donee who is not influenced is unlikely to obtain substantial future donations), and the failure to place some ceiling on the amount of donations that a particular individual should be free to make. And I doubt that companies as distinct from individuals should be permitted to make campaign contributions.

Question: As you know, the speech in question in Citizens United involved a political documentary titled Hillary: The Movie. A conservative non-profit group sought to air it within 30 days of the primary. During oral arguments in the case, the question was asked: “What if the particular movie involved here had not been distributed by Video on Demand? Suppose that people could view it for free on Netflix over the Internet? Suppose that free DVDs were passed out. Suppose people could attend the movie for free in a movie theater; suppose the exact text of this was distributed in a printed form.”

 How would you answer that question? Is it your position that showing that political documentary and/or publishing a book on it during an election is not protected speech under the First Amendment?

Posner: The question is the scope of protection. I don’t think the First Amendment should be interpreted to prevent government from limiting the amount of broadcasting (or equivalent, like movies) in the last few weeks before a national election.

Question: What is your view of the secondary effects doctrine as it has been applied by the Court and lower courts since its use in Renton v. Playtime Theatres, Inc. (1986) and then again in Barnes v. Glen Theatre (1991), which overruled an opinion that you authored. In 1988, your former boss, Justice William Brennan, warned that the doctrine “could set the court on a road that will lead to the evisceration of First Amendment freedoms.” Do you agree? Where do you stand on this matter?

Posner: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it if it is supported by real evidence, though I think it was misapplied in the Barnes case because there wasn’t any evidence that nude dancing promotes crime to any significant extent.

The next installment, the seventh, in the Posner on Posner series was scheduled to be “On Judicial Reputation.” It will now be preceded by a special post on free speech and privacy.  

On Privacy, Free Speech, & Related Matters – Richard Posner vs David Cole & Others

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I’m exaggerating a little, but I think privacy is primarily wanted by people because they want to conceal information to fool others. Richard Posner

Privacy is overratedRichard Posner (2013)

 Much of what passes for the name of privacy is really just trying to conceal the disreputable parts of your conduct. Privacy is mainly about trying to improve your social and business opportunities by concealing the sorts of bad activities that would cause other people not to want to deal with you.Richard Posner (2014)

This is the seventh installment in the “Posner on Posner” series of posts on Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here, the second here, the third here, the fourth here, the fifth here, and the sixth one here.

Privacy has been on Richard Posner’s mind for more than three-and-a-half decades. His views, as evidenced by the epigraph quotes above, have sparked debate in a variety of quarters, both academic and policy. In some ways those views seem oddly consistent with his persona – on the one hand, he is a very public man as revealed by his many writings, while on the other hand, he is a very private man about whom we know little of his life outside of the law save for a New Yorker piece on him thirteen years ago.

On the scholarly side of the privacy divide, his writings include:

  1. The Right of Privacy,” 12 Georgia Law Review 393 (1978)
  2. Privacy, Secrecy, and Reputation,” 28 Buffalo Law Review 1 (1979)
  3. The Uncertain Protection of Privacy by the Supreme Court,” 1979 Supreme Court Review 173
  4. The Economics of Privacy,” 71 The American Economic Review 405 (1981)
  5. Privacy,” Big Think (video clip, nd)
  6. Privacy is Overrated,” New York Daily News, April 28, 2014

For a sampling of Judge Posner’s opinion on privacy, go here (and search Privacy)

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Privacy – “What’s the big deal?”

Privacy interests should really have very little weight when you’re talking about national security. The world is in an extremely turbulent state – very dangerous. — Richard Posner (2014)

Recently, Georgetown Law Center held a conference entitled “Cybercrime 2020: The Future of Online Crime and Investigations” (full C-SPAN video here). In the course of that event, Judge Posner joined with others in government, private industry, and in the legal academy to discuss privacy, the Fourth Amendment, and free speech, among other things. A portion of the exchange between Judge Posner and Georgetown law professor David Cole was captured on video.

Judge Richard Posner

Judge Richard Posner

Scene: The Judge sitting in his office, speaking into a video conference camera — As he rubbed his fingers across the page and looked down, Posner began: “I was thinking, listening to Professor Cole, what exactly is the information that he’s worried about?” Posner paused, as if to setup his next point: “I have a cell phone – iPhone 6 – so if someone drained my cell phone, they would find a picture of my cat [laughter], some phone numbers, some e-mail addresses, some e-mail texts – so what’s the big deal?”

He then glanced up from the text he appeared to be reading and spoke with a grin: “Other people must have really exciting stuff. [laughter] Could they narrate their adulteries or something like that?” [laughter] He then waved his hands in the air before posing a question to the Georgetown Professor.

“What is it that you’re worrying about?” Posner asked as if truly puzzled.

At that point, Cole leaned into his microphone and looked up at the video screen bearing the Judge’s image next to case reports on his left and the American flag on his right.

Cole: “That’s a great question, Judge Posner.”

Professor Cole continued, adding his own humor to the mix: “And I, like you, have only pictures of cats on my phone. [laughter] And I’m not worried about anything from myself, but I’m worried for others.”

On a more substantive note, Cole added: “Your question, which goes back to your original statement, . . . value[s] . . . privacy unless you have something to hide. That is a very, very shortsighted way of thinking about the value [of privacy]. I agree with Michael Dreeben: Privacy is critical to a democracy; it is critical to political freedom; [and] it is critical to intimacy.”

The sex video hypothetical

And then with a sparkle in his spectacled eye, Cole stated: “Your question brings to mind a cartoon that was in the New Yorker, just in the last couple of issues, where a couple is sitting in bed and they have video surveillance cameras over each one of them trained down on the bed [Cole holds his hands above his head to illustrate the peering cameras]. And the wife says to the husband: ‘What are you worried about if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to fear.’”

Using the cartoon as his conceptual springboard, Cole moved on to his main point: “It seems to me that all of us, whether we are engaged in entirely cat-loving behavior, or whether we are going to psychiatrists, or abortion providers, or rape crises centers, or Alcoholics Anonymous, or have an affair – all of us have something to hide. Even if you don’t have anything to hide, if you live a life that could be entirely transparent to the rest of the world, I still think the value of that life would be significantly diminished if it had to be transparent.”

Without missing a beat, Cole circled back to his video theme: “Again you could say, ‘if you’ve got nothing to hide, and you’re not engaged in criminal activity, let’s put video cameras in every person’s bedroom. And let’s just record the video, 24/7, in their bedroom. And we won’t look at it until we have reason to look at it. You shouldn’t be concerned because . . .’”

At this point, Posner interrupted: “Look, that’s a silly argument.”

Cole: “But it’s based on a New Yorker cartoon.”

The Judge was a tad miffed; he waved his right hand up and down in a dismissive way: “The sex video, that’s silly!Waving his index finger to emphasize his point, he added: “What you should be saying, [what] you should be worried about [are] the types of revelation[s] of private conduct [that] discourage people from doing constructive things. You mentioned Alcoholics Anonymous . . .”

Cole: “I find sex to be a constructive thing.”

Obviously frustrated, Posner raised his palms up high in protest: “Let me finish, will you please?”

Cole: “Sure.”

Posner: “Look, that was a good example, right? Because you can have a person who has an alcohol problem, and so he goes to Alcoholics Anonymous, but he doesn’t want this to be known. If he can’t protect that secret,” Posner continued while pointing, “then he’s not going to go to Alcoholics Anonymous. That’s gonna be bad. That’s the sort of thing you should be concerned about rather than with sex videos. . . . [The Alcoholics Anonymous example] is a good example of the kind of privacy that should be protected.”

David Cole

Professor David Cole

Privacy & Politics 

Meanwhile, the audience listened and watched on with its attention now fixed on the Georgetown professor.

Cole: “Well, let me give you an example of sex privacy. I think we all have an interest in keeping our sex lives private. That’s why we close doors into our bedroom, etc. I think that’s a legitimate interest, and it’s a legitimate concern. And it’s not because you have something wrong you want to hide, but because intimacy requires privacy, number one. And number two: think about the government’s use of sex information with respect to Dr. Martin Luther King. They investigated him, intruded on his privacy by bugging his hotel rooms to learn [about his] affair, and then sought to use that – and the threat of disclosing that affair – to change his behavior. Why? Because he was an active, political, dissident fighting for justice.”

“We have a history of that,” he added. “Our country has a history of that; most countries have a history of that; and that’s another reason the government will use information – that doesn’t necessarily concern [it] – to target people who [it is] concerned about . . . – not just because of their alcohol problem [or] not just because of their sexual proclivities – but because they have political views and political ideas that the government doesn’t approve of.”

At this point the moderator invited the Judge to respond.

Posner: “What happened to cell phones? Do you have sex photos on your cell phones?”

Cole: “I imagine if Dr. Martin Luther King was having an affair in 2014, as opposed to the 1960s, his cell phone, his smart phone, would have quite a bit of evidence that would lead the government to that affair. He’d have call logs; he might have texts; he might have e-mails – all of that would be on the phone.”

The discussion then moved onto the other panelists.

Afterwards, and writing on the Volokh Conspiracy blog, Professor Orin Kerr, who was one of the participants in the conference, summed up his views of the exchange this way:

“I score this Cole 1, Posner 0.”

The First Amendment — Enter Glenn Greenwald

Following the Georgetown conference, several commentators took sharp exception to Judge Posner’s comments on privacy. For example, Nick Gillespie, the editor of Reason, tagged Posner’s comments as “incredibly – even willfully – naive.” But the most critical and extended comments came from Glenn Greenwald, the controversial Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who transmits his editorial barbs from Brazil.

Glenn Greenwald

Glenn Greenwald

Coating some of his other claims with rhetorical gloss, Greenwald nonetheless tendered three key arguments: (1) he contested the idea that if one were law-abiding, one had nothing to fear about government surveillance; (2) he alleged that the wealthy and powerful are seldom the targets of government surveillance; and (3) if Judge Posner really believed in what he said, he should, among other things, make his e-mails public. And then by way of a thumb-in-your-eye kind of tactic, Greenwald posted Posner’s 2010 Financial Disclosure Report — in it the name of a trust account that the Judge oversees (or once did) is redacted.

When asked about Greenwald, Posner wanted nothing to do with the man. When I asked him to comment on one of Greenwald’s arguments (see below) and thereby offer his side of the argument, he declined. Here is the passage in question:

Glenn Greenwald on Posner, Privacy & the First Amendment

“To see how power-based rather than principled Posner’s views are, consider what he said and did in a 2011 case – brought by the ACLU — where he mocked the idea that citizens have a First Amendment right to film the police. During oral argument, he immediately interrupted the ACLU lawyer arguing that citizens have this right, and the following exchange occurred:

Judge Posner: Once all this stuff can be recorded, there’s going to be a lot more of this snooping around by reporters and bloggers.

ACLU attorney Richard O’Brien: Is that a bad thing, your honor?

Judge Posner: Yes, it is a bad thing. There is such a thing as privacy.

“Like so many federal judges, Judge Posner recognizes rights only when they belong to agents of the state or the economic elite. When it’s ordinary citizens at issue, he snidely rejects any such protections. Of course, this is exactly backwards: those exercising public power (police officers) have a lower entitlement to privacy than private individuals. But power-servants like Judge Posner view only actors of the state and those who serve it (such as himself) as entitled to these prerogatives.” [Source here]

Note: Judge Posner’s dissent in the case in question, ACLU v. Alvarez (7th Cir., 2012), can be found here.

The Future

Screen Shot 2014-12-14 at 8.32.59 AM“There is a tendency to exaggerate the social value of privacy. I value my privacy as much as the next person, but there is a difference between what is valuable to an individual and what is valuable to society.” Those are Richard Posner’s words. They are also the words that may one day be quoted back to him when it comes to his own privacy.

Sometime next year the public will be able to peer into the private life of Judge Posner as never before. Why? The answer has everything to do with William Domnarski’s forthcoming biography of Richard Posner. When that time comes, the Judge will be the subject renewed commentary of all kinds.

When those biographical pages are turned, how will the public judge Posner? How moderate will commentators be when they quote the following words back him? – “‘Privacy’ is really just a euphemism for concealment, for hiding specific things about ourselves from others.”

Bold claims indeed. They are the kind of open-ended statements that can boomerang on a public official, even one who enjoys the secrecy of the judicial robe. Undeterred, Posner is bolder still: “Privacy-protecting laws are paternalistic.” That “paternalism” may one day be sought out by the very man who mouthed those words. And then again, perhaps not.

Words, words, words — so many more words: “We market ourselves the way sellers of consumer products market their wares — highlighting the good, hiding the bad.” Here, too, those are Posner’s words. They are the kind of words likely to linger once we see Richard Posner in a more revealing biographical light. (I will return to this point and related ones in the final installment in this series – “Afterword: Posner at 75 – ‘It’s My Job.’”)

This next installment, the eighth, in the Posner on Posner series is titled “On Judicial Reputation – More Questions for Judge Posner.” Future installments include “Posner on Same-Sex Marriage – Then and Now” (which does not include questions posed to the Judge since the 7th Cir. case is on appeal) and a Q&A with Judge Posner’s biographer.  

On Judicial Reputation: More Questions for Judge Posner

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Successful people often are insecure (though they may hide their insecurity behind a facade of bluster); it is what drives them to success. – Richard Posner (1994)

We are experts in self-presentation, in acting a part to further our aims and interests. We have, all of us, a public relations strategy.  Richard Posner (May 5, 2011)

I have never yearned for greatness!  Richard Posner (November 26, 2014)

This is the eighth installment in the “Posner on Posner” series of posts on Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here, the second here, the third here, the fourth here, the fifth here, the sixth one here, and and the seventh one here.

In Judge Richard Posner’s The Essential Holmes, he echoed a line from Oliver Wendell Holmes concerning John Marshall. This is that line: “A great man represents a great ganglion in the nerves of society, or to vary the figure, a strategic point in the campaign of history, and part of his greatness consists in his being there.”

Holmes’s resort to the word “ganglion” (meaning a swelling, or mass of nerve cell bodies, or a nerve cell cluster) is rather opaque — his use of the term is not readily apparent. But to tease the Holmesian metaphor out a bit, part of a judge’s greatness depends on a willingness and ability to successfully affect or change the nerve center of a society. In other words, a true capacity to alter something central. The alternative Holmesian account of greatness hinges on a combination of strategy and timing (or one might say Fortuna). That is, judicial reputation depends on a special ability to seize the perfect moment and act boldly – the case of John Marshall, circa, 1803, comes immediately to mind.

Surprisingly, to talk with Richard Posner one might assume from what he says in his all-too-causal manner that he has little or no interest in greatness or judicial reputation as it pertains to him. Strange from a man who has written on book on judicial reputation (not to be confused, he tells us, with judicial greatness) and who in so many ways seems to have a will for greatness. But don’t believe it, he admonishes us emphatically: “I have never yearned for greatness!”  

According to Judge Posner, Cardozo was a highly reputed jurist and Holmes was a great jurist. But what of Posner? Silence. Apparently, he doesn’t care to discuss it. Why? Perhaps because as a maverick jurist (and he is surely that), he cannot appear to seek public approval. And yet, if one were to invoke his own criteria for measuring judicial reputation, Judge Posner would rank quite high. (See e.g., Ronald Collins & David O’Brien, “Gauging Reputations, National Law Journal, pp. 13-14, April 1, 1991, and Lawrence Cunningham, “Cardozo and Posner: A Study in Contracts,” William & Mary Law Review (1985).) Fine, he might say, brushing it off with a disinterested look. And what of his legal legacy? Of that he claims to care not: “I have absolutely no interest in my posthumous reputation,” he assures us.

So there you have him: a great jurist (or should I say a highly reputed jurist?) who really does not care a bit about being seen as great. Speaking of that subject, see Richard Posner, “The Hand Biography and the Question of Judicial Greatness,” 104 Yale Law Journal 511, (1994).

All that said, in what follows, Judge Posner says a few things about these matters in connection with various American jurists.

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Max Lerner

Max Lerner

Question: In his book Nine Scorpions in a Bottle (1994), the late Max Lerner asserted: “There is no recipe for judicial greatness. Yet, if hard-pressed, I should settle for someone with a flexible mind, a compassion for the walking wounded, a refusal to be cowed by power, a capacity to live with the contradictions of life and to separate the permanent from the transient.” And then he added: “That is what I should call a passionately judicial temperament, and only a few have had it.” Before we turn to your own particular views on the subject, what is your opinion of Mr. Lerner’s recipe (albeit tentative) for judicial greatness?

Posner: [As for Lerner’s formula for greatness, I find it] a little puffed up. Forget greatness. A very good judge is a judge who is well educated and intelligent, hard working, willing to write his own opinions, curious about the real-world activities, transactions, and institutions out of which the cases he hears arise, collegial, and aware (so far as anyone can be aware) of his limitations and of the influences that play on him as a result of his upbringing, ideology, career, and temperament.

Posner on the Criteria for Judicial Greatness

For one thing the criteria of judicial greatness are contested. Some might insist that a judge’s greatness consists in the “rightness” of his decisions as judged by the test of time. I think that this is too demanding a standard. Most judicial decisions, even of the agreed-to-be-the-greatest judges, like most scientific discoveries, even of the universally acknowledged greatest scientists, usually are superseded and in that sense eventually proved “wrong.” I believe that the test of greatness for the substance of judicial decisions, therefore, should be, as in the case of science, the contribution that the decisions make to the development of legal rules and principles rather than whether the decision is a “classic” having the permanence and perfection of a work of art. . . Creativity is .  . . one possible criterion ofjudicial greatness. Another . . . . is the gift of verbal facility that enables a familiar proposition to be expressed memorably, arrestingly, thus enforcing attention, facilitating comprehension, and, often, stimulating new thought (in which case the expressive dimension of judicial greatness merges with the creative). [Source here]

Question: Almost a quarter-century ago you called on scholars to pay considerably more attention to “critical judicial study” by way of quantitative analysis of judicial reputation, influence, and achievement. Do you think that call has been heeded?

Posner: A little, not a great deal.

UnknownQuestion: The quantitative analysis you employed in Cardozo: A Study in Reputation (1990) turned largely, and understandably so, on a judge’s reputation within the legal community. But greatness surely extends beyond the confines of that domain and into the larger public realm. How is judicial reputation to be gauged at that macro level? And how does that pursuit of greatness differ, if at all, from one confined to the legal community?

Posner: No one outside the legal profession (with the intermittent exception of politicians) is interested in judges other than Supreme Court Justices. I don’t think it’s healthy for judges to worry about what lay people think of them.

Question: Most judges, you contend, “would rather be regarded as sound than as original, as appliers of the law rather than inventors of it. Judges find it politic to pretend that they are the slaves of the law, never its masters and the competitors of legislators.” If a judge takes that creed of moderation seriously, is such a jurist likely to be heralded as great?

Posner: As I said earlier, forget greatness. The judges who adopt the pretense will be respected by many other judges and applauded by legislators, who don’t like the idea of judges making law, though judges to make a great deal of law.

Question: You have suggested that “rhetorical power may be a more important attribute of judicial excellence than analytical power.” Why? And should that be so?

Posner: The analytical issues presented by cases are rarely complex or difficult, though lawyers and judges and law professors try to make them seem so. The insights of the excellent judges tend to be the result of intuition, experience, and temperament rather than of analysis, and the rhetorical power in which they are expressed are important to the persuasiveness and reception of the insights.

None of the [current Justices] has any empirical, technical background. They’re just humanities majors. Richard Posner, Oct. 23, 2014, University of Chicago Law School remarks.

Question: In terms of his position in American law, what single trait do you think best helps to explain Chief Justice John Marshall’s revered and lasting reputation?

Posner: He had a great deal of common sense and government experience, and he wrote forcefully and lucidly.

Justice Joseph Story

Justice Joseph Story

Question: By the time he died in 1845, Justice Joseph Story published twenty-one books after his three-volume Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, which was a major legal work for its time and long afterwards. And he authored some important opinions such as Martin v. Hunter’s Lessee (1816), Swift v. Tyson (1842), and Prigg v. Pennsylvania (1842). And yet, today the man and his work seem to be largely forgotten. Why do you suppose that is?

Posner: I don’t know. I’ve never read anything by him. Prompted by your question, I read his opinion in Swift v. Tyson. I thought it was well written, though not as well written as Marshall’s opinions.

[RC: Consider Bernard Schwartz, “Supreme Court Superstars: The Ten Greatest Justices” (1995) (ranking Story as second greatest Justice.]

Question: I was struck by how much the reputational stock of some of the judges and scholars you listed in Tables 1-4 of your Cardozo book has dropped since you published that work in 1990. Is judicial reputation thus akin, at least in some general way, to the rise-and-fall celebrity stardom of, say, the Michael Jackson variety? If so, how does a judge best secure a reputation that lasts over generational time?

Posner: The decline is experienced by almost all judges, simply because law changes as society changes, and the old cases cease to have any relevance. Well-written opinions have the best survival chances, because the quality of the writing is independent of the currency or importance of the issues.

Question: The filaments of Holmes’ thought, you maintain, included “Nietzschean vitalism.” Tell us more about that and why you think it important.

Posner: It’s the anti-religious attitude that human beings should create their own values; it exalts freedom. There is a hint of that in Holmes’s free-speech opinions.

Posner on Gerald Gunther’s Biography of Learned Hand

What the book is not is critical, analytical, theoretically ambitious, “deep” . . . What does not lend itself to Gunther’s style of historiography is the actual core of Hand’s career: his fifty-two years as a federal judge-his countless votes and 3000 published opinions (a misleading number, though, as we shall see) distributed over many different fields of law. . . . Much as Gunther admires Hand, the emphasis he places on Hand’s constitutional views does disservice to Hand’s reputation. For it puts Hand in direct competition with Holmes, a competition that Hand, good as he was, cannot win. [Source here]

UnknownQuestion: Despite what Holmes said to him in 1931, by 1958 Learned Hand seemed ill equipped to “capture the imagination of his time.” According to Constance Jordan (the editor of the Judge’s correspondence), Hand’s little book The Bill of Rights (1958) “received a generally negative response.” In a subsequent 1963 printing of the book, Judge Charles Wyzanski observed: “Judge Hand’s thesis has not been supported by a single eminent judge or professor.” And yet, Learned Hand has done well by biographers and appears to have assumed a place in the pantheon of American jurists. Why?

Posner: That book was not good, but he was very old. His reputation rests on earlier opinions and some articles, also earlier.

Question: In what particular way, if any, did Felix Frankfurter distinguish himself as a Justice? And what was his greatest failing?

Posner: His writing was often pompous, overblown, and sometimes downright phony. But he wrote a number of good opinions.

Question: Part of Holmes’ greatness seems to be attributable to the persistent efforts of the editors of The New Republic along with those of Harvard Professor Felix Frankfurter. In other words, a great judge’s reputation depends in real part on promoters, especially those in the legal academy who author casebooks. Do you agree? Can you say a few words about that and how a judge cultivates such a following?

Posner: I don’t think judges should “cultivate” anybody.

Posner on Principles

We should mark the family resemblance between Bickel’s moral vanguardism, despite its cloak of principles, and the active side of Holmes’s “can’t helps” or “puke” test. Both are delaying games in the sense that if public opinion is very strongly in favor of some policy that the Justices cannot stomach, eventually they will have to give way; the moral vanguard has to stop its march if there is no one following it. But there is an important difference between the two approaches. Bickel thought that the Justices could educate the masses to fall in line with the Justices’ superior insights. Holmes harbored no such hopes, which he would have described as illusions, because he was skeptical about the force of moral reasoning. – Foreword, Harvard Law Review (2005)

Question: In Reflections on Judging you say of Judge Henry Friendly that he was “quite possibly the all-around analytically most proficient appellate judge in American history . . . .” Perhaps consistent with that description, if only in a general sense, in your foreword to David Dorsen’s biography of the Judge you describe Friendly’s judicial opinions as “almost Teutonic.” By that did you mean turgid and/or highly analytical and thus difficult to comprehend? If so, is that a virtue or a vice for a judge aspiring to be great? Or did you mean something altogether different from what I have suggested?

Posner: He didn’t write very well. His opinions tend to be too long and too detailed.

Screen Shot 2014-11-21 at 9.33.44 AMQuestion: In your introductory comments to the Friendly biography, you noted that some of what you learned in reading that book induced you to make “certain changes” in your “judicial practice.” What were those changes and how important do you consider them?

Posner: I decided to spend more time on my cases and less on academic research and writing. I wanted to be as good as Friendly! I didn’t and don’t regard that as an attainable goal, but there’s nothing wrong with having goals for which one strives without complete success.

Question: “The institution of the signed opinion,” you maintain, “enables a judge to cultivate an admiring audience outside of, and even antagonistic to, his judicial colleagues . . . .” Is there something distinctive about your signed opinions that one would not find in a per curiam opinion you wrote? And for posthumous purposes, would you consider listing your per curiam opinions in a compilation of all of your judicial opinions?

Posner: I stopped issuing per curiam opinions some time ago; it didn’t seem to me that “per curiam” was sending a useful signal; I couldn’t see the point of concealing authorship. West asks each judge to list his per curiams, and they are then included in the annual volume of a judge’s opinions, which West prepares and sends to the judge. So anyone who is interested could find out which per curiams have been mine. 

On Justice Brennan 

William Brennan was a very nice person and a very good boss [Judge Posner clerked for Justice Brennan]. But he was indifferent to what was in the opinion; he just cared about results. He had been a very good judge on the New Jersey Supreme Court. He had legal analytic abilities. He just didn’t care about them as a Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. (Interview with Eric J. Segall, N.Y. Rev. of Books, Sept. 29, 2011) (For a kinder assessment, see Richard Posner, “A Tribute to Justice William J. Brennan, Jr.. 104 Harv. L. Rev. 13 (1990).)

Question: In terms of your own approach to law, your analytical and rhetorical skills, and your overall judicial temperament, what great judges are you most like and which great ones are you least like? And why? (I trust our readers will understand that in asking such a question I invite you to eschew any needless self-effacement.)

Posner: I don’t think I’m much like any of them.

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By way of a closing note, readers may find it helpful to consider yet one more statement by Judge Posner on the kind of things he thinks a biographer should focus on in analyzing the reputation of his subject.

[In Learned Hand’s case as with others, one must examine his] judicial workload; [study] how he allocated his time between his judicial activities and his extensive social (and at times political) life outside the court; whether he cut any comers in his judicial work; how heavily he relied on the parties’ briefs and oral arguments; where he got the idea for the “‘Hand formula”; whether his opinions differ systematically from those of his colleagues along such dimensions as length and number of citations; whether his opinions were and continue to be cited more heavily than those of his colleagues; how often he made factual or legal errors; how opinion-writing assignments were made in his court; whether he consciously specialized in any particular classes of case; how often he cited his own opinions; why he wrote so few diversity opinions; whether he got his opinions out faster or slower than his colleagues did; whether he tried to keep up with the opinions of other courts; how often he was reversed by the Supreme Court . . . . [Source here]

As already noted, Judge Posner was critical of the late Gerald Gunther for not devoting more attention to such matters. All of this and more will take on new meaning with the advent of the forthcoming biography of Judge Posner by William Domnarski.

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This next installment, the ninth, in the Posner on Posner series is titled “Posner on Same-Sex Marriage – Then and Now” (which does not include questions posed to the Judge since the 7th Cir. case is on appeal). The post after that is “Posner on Judicial Workloads.” 

Posner on Same-Sex Marriage: Then and Now

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. . .  I disagree with contentions that the Constitution should be interpreted to require state recognition of homosexual marriage on the ground that it is a violation of equal protection of the laws to discriminate against homosexuals by denying them that right. Given civil unions, and contractual substitutes for marriage even short of civil unions, the discrimination involved in denying the right of homosexual marriage seems to me too slight (though I would not call it trivial) to warrant the courts in bucking strong public opinion . . . . — Richard Posner (2005)

At various points [in oral arguments in the same-sex cases], Judge Posner derided arguments from the Wisconsin and Indiana lawyers as “pathetic,” “ridiculous,” and “absurd.” – David Lat (2014)

This is the ninth installment in the “Posner on Posner” series of posts on Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner. The first installment can be found here, the second here, the third here, the fourth here, the fifth here, the sixth here, the seventh here, and the eighth one here.

Following the fourth installment in the Posner on Posner series of posts, someone commented on a point Judge Posner made in response to a question posed to him by Professor Kathryn Watts. That comment is set out below. Following it are excerpts from Judge Posner’s 1997 Michigan Law Review essay critiquing Professor William Eskridge’s The Case for Same-Sex Marriage: From Sexual Liberty to Civilized Commitment (1996). Accompanying them are some excerpts from Judge Posner’s opinion Baskin v. Bogan (7th Cir., Sept. 4, 2104, cert. denied and cert denied sub nom., 135 S. Ct. 316) in which he struck down two state laws banning same-sex marriage.

judgeposner_2010All of this is offered up duly mindful what Judge Posner said in a July of 2014 interview: “I’ve changed my views a lot over the years. I’m much less reactionary than I used to be. I was opposed to homosexual marriage in my book Sex and Reason (1992) [see here re those arguments], which was still the dark ages regarding public opinion of homosexuality. Public opinion changed radically in the years since. My views have changed about a lot of things.”

Of course, those comments from his 2014 interview with Joel Cohen were rendered before the Baskin case came before his court. Since the same-sex marriage cases are not  before the Supreme Court for review, I did not ask the Judge to comment on the matter.

That said, I begin with the online commentators remarks and will thereafter proceed to offer some excerpts:

  1. from Posner’s Sex and Reason (S&R)
  2. his Michigan Law Review essay (MLR)
  3. his Baskin opinion (BB), and
  4. some excerpts from the petition (CP) filed by the Attorney General of Indiana in Baskin since it references Judge Posner’s Michigan Law Review Essay and does so in support of its arguments for reversing the Seventh Circuit’s ruling.

Before offering any excerpts, however, I offer a historical sketch of the legal context in which Judge Posner found himself when he first wrote his book and law review essay and thereafter when he wrote his Baskin opinion.  

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Praise for Posner: On Judges Educating the Public

LGBT (12-3-14)Judge Posner, I am thinking you will probably read comments so I am taking this opportunity to reach out to you and sincerely thank you for your decision on the Wisconsin & Indiana cases on Gay Marriage. Your ruling was a Tour de Force (!) that got quoted & re-quoted all over the gay blogosphere. The lawyers and other Judges will remember other things you did, but the PUBLIC will remember your decision in the Gay Marriage cases. This will be the opinion that will be cited in the History books. And what was REALLY GREAT is how fast you turned it around. It was oral arguments, then BAM! . . .”

“How wrong you are when you say in your interview, ‘it’s unrealistic for judges to try to educate the general public. I don’t think the general public is interested in anything about judicial opinions except who won the case.’ Not in the Gay Marriage cases; the interest is not simply that we won, but WHY we won. Your words have been copied and pasted all over the gay blogosphere. I know that there is one gay website that gets 30 million hits a year, just that one site. Trust me your opinion was read by millions. It wasn’t simply who won, but WHY the gays won. It was validation to them, they read it and felt validated. You told them they were Equal, and that raised a lot of emotions. Tears were shed, a lot of them. People were commenting how they were reading your opinion and crying, it was very emotional for many, many people. Your opinion will most certainly go down in the history books on the history of the Gay Rights Movement. And I thank you deeply for it.”

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The Historical Backdrop

UnknownTurn the clock back to 1992, the time when then Judge Posner published Sex and Reason. That was before the Hawaii Supreme Court’s seminal ruling in Baehr v. Lewin (1993) in which it ruled that denying marriage licenses to same-sex couples violated the equality of rights provision of the state constitution unless the state could demonstrate a compelling interest for such discrimination. And the year before Posner published his Michigan Law Review essay (when Eskridge taught at Georgetown), President Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act into law. Recall, that law permitted the states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages and remained on the books until Section 3 of the Act was declared unconstitutional by a 5-4 margin in United States v. Windsor. In 1999 Vermont Supreme Court took the lead in ordering the state legislature to establish laws permitting same-sex marriages (Baker v. Vermont was the case). In 2000 the Vermont legislature enacted just such a law, making Vermont the first state in the Union to recognize same-sex marriages.

 As for guidance from the Supreme Court, recall that Romer v. Evans (a rather confusing opinion by a divided Court) was handed down in 1996 and Lawrence v. Texas in 2003.

Different Domains: Scholarly Opinions vs Judicial Opinions 

If pursued with characteristic Posnerian relentlessness, [several of his] premises [in Sex and Reason] could yield radically pro-gay policies. But Posner does not press his analysis and, instead, neglects his stated first principles. His treatment of gaylegal issues tends to collapse into well-meaning ad hoc-ness.

[R]epealing sodomy laws and outlawing overt discrimination against bisexuals, gay men, and lesbians are easy cases for a rationalist, libertarian analysis. But a tough-minded cost-benefit analysis [such as the one Posner employs] would not stop with the easiest cases. Recognizing the same constitutional right to privacy for same-sex intimacy as is accorded different-sex intimacy, ending the military’s exclusion of bisexuals, gay men, and lesbians, and requiring states to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples are conclusions that are scarcely less compelling under Posner’s first principles. Yet Posner himself rejects or avoids these latter conclusions. And he does not even discuss other issues of profound importance to lesbian, gay, and bisexual communities.                        – William Eskridge (1992)

Professor William Eskridge

Professor William Eskridge

One does not have to defend Richard Posner’s early views on same-sex marriage to concede the obvious: it was a different legal world. Still, a new legal order was emerging as evidenced by two noteworthy pieces by Professor William Eskridge: First, his 1992 Yale Law Journal review essay of Sex and Reason, and second, his 1993 Virginia Law Review article, “A History of Same-Sex Marriage.” And then there was Professor Robin West’s critical 1993 Georgetown Law Journal review essay on Sex and Reason.

 Richard Posner, an intermediate appellate judge, was not then a part of that emerging order. As a jurist he yielded, so he asserted, to the dictates of judicial modesty. While such dictates understandably restricted the direction of his judicial opinions, they need not have dictated the direction of his scholarly opinions in which he often demonstrated a unique cerebral bravado and a willingness to be a maverick in forging creative arguments. Moreover, in his capacity as a public intellectual and legal scholar, Posner was quite outspoken in refuting the critics of his work. See, e.g., his “The Radical Feminist Critique of Sex and Reason” (1993) article. In all of this, it is important to note that Posner nonetheless: (1) favored decriminalizing homosexual sex; (2) endorsed contracts of cohabitation for same-sex couples; and (3) was fine with legislative enactments legalizing same-sex marriage.

Thus, prior to the oral arguments in Baskin v. Bogan and the opinion in that case, what Posner had written in Sex and Reason and in his Michigan Law Review essay gave a meaningful degree of legal legitimacy to the campaign to oppose same-sex marriage. As late as 2004, Posner’s arguments were reproduced in a collection of essays (edited by Andrew Sullivan and first published in 1997) on same sex-marriage. And then there is his 2005 statement quoted at the outset of this post. It took nearly 17 years after the Michigan Law Review essay was published before Judge Posner expressed any significantly different views, first in a 2014 interview and then in a 2014 judicial opinion. Why so long?

A pragmatic reformer is concerned with what works and therefore cannot ignore public opinion or political realities just because the things he wants to change are not rooted in nature but instead are “mere” constructs. — Richard Posner (1995)

Safe Harbor

By the time Baskin came down, Posner was in relatively safe legal harbor – 23 appellate courts (state and federal) and eight state legislatures had legitimized same-sex marriages. And three other states had done so by way of popular initiative. Plus, there was the Supreme Court’s 2013 ruling in United States v. Windsor.

Here, too, this is not to diminish the importance of Judge Posner’s exceptionally forceful questioning in the oral arguments in Baskin along with his cogent opinion in that case. The fact that he had aligned his reasoning with the cause of same-sex marriage is significant for any variety of reasons. The pertinent point here is simply to place them in historical and political context.

Professor Robin West

Professor Robin West

While he was a maverick leading the pack when it came to law and economics, Richard Posner was a follower (albeit a thoughtful and nuanced one) when it came to law and same-sex marriage. Or to put it more boldly, consider what Professor West wrote in 1993:

“It is not his view of homosexuality as genetically determined, however, that steers Posner away from a clear endorsement of same sex marriage. It is, rather, his near-absolute refusal to think imaginatively and empathically about the subjective lives of others.”

Whether that claim is entirely true, it might be true insofar as it points to a time when Posner (the public intellectual) chose (for pragmatic reasons) to align his thought more with the status quo than with what a new vision of the law of same-sex marital equality.

As for Eskridge’s final take on Sex and Reason, he spoke frankly: “We should be insistent that our concerns be addressed now, and not delayed by the standard legal process delays.” But for Judge Posner delay prevailed – in the case of same-sex marriage, that delay took twenty-two years after Sex and Reason was published.

Still, in time the septuagenarian jurist changed his views (again, first by way of a public interview, and then by way of a judicial opinion). But why the change?

  • Was it simply that his views (like those of many of us) had evolved?

(On this point, it bears noting that Professor Eskridge viewed the world of law and same-sex marriage from a different perch than the one on which Judge Posner sits, if only because the professor is a gay man writing from that vantage point, one of historical oppression. Such factors make a difference.)

  • Was it that the mood of the nation and that of the bench had changed dramatically since the time when Posner first wrote on the subject?
  • Was it that he did not want to find himself on the wrong side of history?
  • Was it all of the above? And/or something else altogether?
Professor David Skover

Professor David Skover

The Force of Cultural Sensitization

Although I knew in the 1950s that there were homosexuals, if asked I would have truthfully said that as far as I knew I had never met one, or expected ever to meet one, any more than I had ever met or expected to meet an Eskimo. Richard Posner (2012)

To be fair, there are mitigating factors that affect the way one thinks about life and law. For example, there is age, life experience, and cultural sensitization, all major forces of change and how one comes to see and judge his or her world. When seen through such lenses, earlier and harsher opinions may soften quite a bit and prompt one to rethink yesterday’s pronouncements. In this regard, just recall Justice Lewis Powell’s change of mind on the question of gay rights (see here).

Moreover, by June of 2012 Richard Posner’s views were evolving. Simply consider his words: “Another factor in increased tolerance is that as homosexuals began feeling less pressure to conceal their homosexuality, and so began to mingle openly with heterosexuals, the latter discovered that homosexuals are for the most part indistinguishable from heterosexuals, and this created sympathy for homosexuals’ desire to be treated equally with heterosexuals both generally and in regard to marriage.” Since his view of the law is not a static one, it seems natural that as societal norms began to change, so too would his understanding of the law, albeit aided by some variations in constitutional law as announced by the Supreme Court. That is a point to which he has long held. “I do not myself see,” he said back in 1997, “a sharp line in constitutional law between what is right and what is acceptable.”

So what about the wrong side of history argument? “I don’t believe,” observed Professor David Skover, “that it was only Posner’s unwillingness to be ‘on the wrong side of history’ that prompted him to change his opinion on same-sex marriage. For one thing, he doesn’t seem terribly concerned such matters given some of the other views he has espoused over the years. My guess, and it is only that, is that cultural sensitization probably had a lot to do with it. If so, a change of opinion for that reason should be lauded.”

The Posner Push  Credit: David Michael Miller

The Posner Push
Credit: David Michael Miller

Additionally, “consider the way Judge Posner ultimately weighed in on the subject of same-sex marriage,” Skover added. “Both in the oral arguments and in his opinion in Baskin, Judge Posner thoroughly trashed each and every stereotypical argument raised for upholding same-sex marriage bans under rationality review. No one heretofore had been near as forceful in calling out (and scorning) the makeshift arguments that Wisconsin and Indiana raised . . . arguments that continue to be honored by one federal (6th Circuit) and many state courts. And for that, I applaud him – ‘better late than never,’ as they say.”

Mindful of that last point, there is the likelihood that the arguments advanced in Baskin may take on added importance for two reasons:

  1. they were advanced by one of the nation’s preeminent jurists, and
  2. because they were advanced by that same someone who came to realize the error of his former ways.

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 Past Tense — Select Excerpted Passages 

MLR – On Tolerance: “Tolerance for homosexual relationships need not imply recognition of homosexual marriage . . . .”

S&R – On Public Hostility: “[T]he public hostility to homosexuals in this country is too widespread to make homosexual marriage a feasible proposal even if it is on balance cost-justified.”

MLR – On Official Approval: “The principal opposition to homosexual marriage comes from people who believe that for the state to recognize such marriage would be to place a stamp of official approval on homosexuality. Eskridge discusses this objection at length, but I do not think he refutes it. . . . [T]here is a difference between approving a form of union and approving particular individuals who are utilizing that form. Obviously the fact that a man wearing a dress can marry a woman wearing a suit, or a rapist his victim, does not entail that the state must allow a man to marry three women at once, or his cat, or his sports car.”

CP On Common Practice: “‘[H]omosexual marriage has nowhere been a common practice, even in societies in which homosexuality was common.’” (quoting MLR)

MLR – On History & Anthropology: “Eskridge’s examples of same-sex marriage, all of which are drawn from cultures that do not emphasize companionate marriage, have very limited relevance to the case for recognizing same-sex marriage in our society. It does not follow that same-sex marriage should be forbidden, only that history and anthropology do not furnish persuasive precedents for Eskridge’s position.”

MLR – On Adoption: “I do think (Eskridge is vague about this) that homosexual couples ought not be granted the identical rights of adoption as heterosexual couples without further study of the effects of such adoption - not on the sexual orientation of the child, which I believe to be invariant to the adoptive parents’ orientation as to other environmental factors, but on the child’s welfare in the broadest sense.”

Note: In a 1993 Connecticut Law Review article Posner declared: In Sex and Reason “I discuss the pros and cons of homosexual marriage without reaching a conclusion, and I conclude that homosexuals should not be forbidden to have custody of children, that the best interests of the child may sometimes be served by such custody, and that the matter should be considered on a case-by-case basis rather than governed by blanket rules.”

MLR – On Judicial Restraint: “A decision by the Supreme Court holding that the Constitution entitles people to marry others of the same sex would be far more radical than any of the decisions cited by Eskridge. Its moorings in [1] text, [2] precedent, [3] public policy, and [4] public opinion would be too tenuous to rally even minimum public support. It would be an unprecedented example of judicial immodesty. That well-worn epithet ‘usurpative” would finally fit.”

CP – On Targeted Discrimination: “The Seventh Circuit’s refusal to examine its assumption of discrimination is all the more startling given that the opinion’s author has previously articulated the opposite view in published scholarship. Richard A. Posner, Should There Be Homosexual Marriage? And If So, Who Should Decide?, 95 Mich. L. Rev. 1578, 1582 (1997) (‘There is no legal barrier to homosexuals’ marrying persons of the opposite sex; in this respect there is already perfect formal equality between homosexuals and heterosexuals.’). In any event, a coherent understanding of traditional marriage is impossible if one begins by assuming what has yet to be proven, i.e., that it amounts to targeted discrimination.”

 BB – Suspect Discrimination: “[T]he governments of Indiana and Wisconsin have given us no reason to think they have a ‘reasonable basis’ for forbidding same-sex marriage. And more than a reasonable basis is required because this is a case in which the challenged discrimination is, in the formula from the Beach case, ‘along suspect lines.’ Discrimination by a state or the federal government against a minority, when based on an immutable characteristic of the members of that minority (most familiarly skin color and gender), and occurring against an historical background of discrimination against the persons who have that characteristic, makes the discriminatory law or policy constitutionally suspect.”

This next installment, the tenth, in the Posner on Posner series is titled “Posner on Case Workloads.” The post after that is a Q&A with the Judge’s biographer.  


FAN 36 (First Amendment News) Forgotten Free Press Advocates — The Women Lawyers in NYT v. Sullivan

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These three women were active in ACLU First Amendment work during those early years and had an enormously powerful and lasting impact on the law we enjoy today. — Joel Gora (longtime ACLU lawyer)

The news follows, but before it does I want to say a few words about three remarkable women and their roles in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964). They are:

  1. Harriet Pilpel (1911-1991)
  2. Nanette Dembitz (1913-1989)
  3. Nancy F. Wechsler (1916-2009)
Harriet Fleischl Pilpel

Harriet Fleischl Pilpel

Among others places, you will find their names on the cover of the ACLU amicus brief filed in the Supreme Court on September 9, 1963 in the Sullivan case. Beyond the single sentence they receive in the Supreme Court Reports and in Anthony Lewis’ Make No Law: The Sullivan Case and the First Amendment (1991), the women are virtually unknown players in the First Amendment world. As their respective stories reveal, there is more, much more, to be said about the people in the landmark case and how it came to be so. (BTW: Doris Wechsler — the wife of Herbert Wechsler, the attorney for the Times — helped write the merits brief in Sullivan and is listed on it. She sat in the lawyers’ section when Sullivan was argued in the Supreme Court.)

Recently, I had occasion to say a few words about some of those people in connection with a conference hosted by the University of Oregon School of Journalism and Communications and the Law School, a conference to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Sullivan. That is how I came upon the ACLU brief filed in Sullivan.

The lead attorneys for the ACLU and the New York Civil Liberties Union were Edward S. Greenbaum (of the famed Greenbaum, Wolff & Ernst firm) and Harriet Pilpel. Melvin L. Wulf, Nanette Dembitz, and Nancy Wechsler were of counsel.

Here is how things began: Mel Wulf, the ACLU attorney, contacted Greenbaum and asked if his firm would file a brief on behalf of ACLU. Greenbaum agreed and, as Wulf recalls, Nancy Wechsler wrote the first draft along with help from Harriet Pilpel. Nanette Dembitz added her own comments, whereafter Wulf did the final read and edit. Greenbaum, the lead attorney, had little or no meaningful input on the brief. The ACLU brief was 37 pages long (plus appendix) and made three basic arguments:

  1. Alabama’s exercise of its long-arm jurisdiction over the Petitioners violated the First Amendment and the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment
  2. Alabama’s defamation law as applied to criticism of public officials on matters of public concern violated the First Amendment as applied to the states by way of the Fourteenth Amendment
  3. The trial judge denied the Petitioners due process of law and equal protection of the laws as guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment

Those arguments were teased in a variety of ways — e.g., Alabama’s use of its defamation laws was analogous to the Alien and Sedition acts; there was no reasonable basis for presuming malice or damages; and the trial was so rife with racial prejudice against the Petitioners as to deny them equal protection. More could be said about the brief, but for now let me leave it there so as to return to my sketch of the three women who contributed to the ACLU brief.

 Harriet Pilpel was an accomplished public-interest advocate with sterling credentials: A graduate of Vassar College and Columbia Law School (1936, second in her class), she went to wotk for the firm of Greenbaum, Wolf & Ernst. Later, she served as general counsel for both the ACLU (1979-1986) and Planned Parenthood. In 1982 she joined the law firm of Weil, Gotshal & Manges. During her career, she participated in 27 cases that came before the Supreme Court. She argued on behalf of Planned Parenthood in Poe v. Ulman (1961). She wrote yet other briefs for Planned Parenthood in cases such as Griswod v. Connecticut (1964, with Nancy Wechsler), Roe v. Wade (1973, with Nancy Wechsler), and Carey v. Population Services International (1977). Pilpel was also on the briefs for the Appellees in Harris v. McRae (1980).

In the free speech context, Pilpel was co-counsel with Edward Greenbaum in Farmers Union v. WDAY (1959), a statutory interpretation defamation case.

Harriet was very helpful in supporting my initial run for the ACLU National Board of Directors (a very competitive process), and she also debated Catharine MacKinnon about pornography at an ACLU Biennial Conference.Nadine Strossen

“The early reproductive rights movement challenged anti-obscenity Comstock laws. Pilpel was one of three attorneys who represented the Kinsey Institute in a lawsuit against the United States Customs Service, after an Indianapolis customs collector deemed sex-related literature “grossly obscene” and began impounding the materials in 1950. Seven years later, in 1957, she won the case before the Federal District Court.” (Source here). Pilpel also served on the boards of the Guttmacher Institute and NARAL, and was co-chair of the National Coalition Against Censorship. (For more information about her, go here, here, and here. See also Harriet Pilpel & Theodora Zavin, Your Marriage and the Law (1964).)

Nanette Dembitz

Nanette Dembitz

Nanette Dembitz was Louis Brandeis’ second cousin. Born in Washington State, she was a cum laude alumna of the University of Michigan. Dembitz, too, graduated from Columbia Law School (1938), where she served as an editor of the Columbia Law Review. As recounted in her obituary, “she was nevertheless unable to obtain a job in a New York law firm. One man, she said, told her that she might find a spot as a secretary, if she could type. She turned to public law, first as a legal research assistant to the New York State Constitutional Convention Committee. After working at the Justice Department [see here and here re her work there] and the National Labor Relations Board, she was volunteer general counsel of the New York Civil Liberties Union from 1955 to 1967. She was also a special counsel in family law for the Legal Aid Society. Mayor John V. Lindsay appointed her to the Family Court in 1967. . . In 1972, voters rejected her campaign to become the first woman elected to the Court of Appeals, the state’s highest court.” (See election ad here with endorsements from Gloria Steinem, Bella Abzug, Betty Friedan, and Shirley Chisholm)

Dembitz co-authored an ACLU amicus brief with Mel Wulf that was submitted to the Supreme Court in Lamont v. Postmaster General (1965), the first case to strike down a federal law on First Amendment grounds. With Edward J. Ennis, she wrote the merits brief in a citizenship case, Afroyim v. Rusk (1967). Other cases in which she contributed to briefs submitted to Supreme Court include: Nelson v. Los Angeles (1960), DeVeau v. Braisted (1960), Douglas v. California (1963), Wheeldin v. Wheeler (1963), and  Boutolier v. Immigration Service (1967).

Her scholarly works include: “Racial Discrimination and the Military Judgment: The Supreme Court’s Korematsu and Endo Decisions,” 45 Columbia Law Review 175 (1945) (see William Wiecek’s comments here), and “The Supreme Court and a Minor’s Abortion Decision,” 80 Columbia Law Review 1251 (1980). See also her “Welfare Home Visits: Child versus Parent” article published in the American Bar Association Journal (Sept., 1971).

Nancy F. Wechsler

Nancy F. Wechsler

→ Like Harriet Pilpel and Nanette Dembitz before her, Nancy Wechsler was a Columbia Law School graduate (1940, top of her class). Here father was Osmond Fraenkel (general counsel to the ACLU); she was the sister-in-law of Herbert Wechsler, the Columbia Law professor who represented the Times before the Supreme Court. “In 1948, Wechsler joined Greenbaum, Wolf & Ernst, and began a storied career as a copyright and intellectual property lawyer. She garnered even more attention because of the firm’s representation of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, at a time when contraception and abortion were essentially outlawed. . . .” Along with Harriet Pilpel, she co-authored several amicus brief  submitted to the Court in reproductive rights cases. See Marc Stein, Supreme Court Decisions from Griswold to Roe (2010)

“The bulk of her career was spent representing publishers, authors, agents, and literary estate, while also taking on cases involving libel, obscenity, right of publicity, and other First Amendment issues. ‘It was a big deal to review a book for libel,’ she recalled. ‘You sat with the author and worked through the whole book. I did a lot of that.'” Robert F. Kennedy was one of her clients.

Note:  All five of the lawyers on the ACLU brief were Columbia Law School graduates.

→ I plan to say more about the ACLU brief along with yet others involved in the Sullivan case. Meanwhile, for other accounts of forgotten women in our free speech history, see Ronald Collins & David Hudson, “To the High Court: Olive Rabe Representing Rosika Schwimmer” (First Amendment Center, May 26, 2008), and “Remembering Two Forgotten Women in Free-Speech History” (First Amendment Center, May 27, 2008).

FCC Chairman Urged to Reject Petition Against use of ‘Redskins’ Name

This from a CBS news story: “The FCC has received a letter requesting its chairman, Tom Wheeler, reject a petition to deny the renewal of a Red Zebra Broadcasting-owned radio station’s broadcasting license, over its use of the word ‘Redskin.'”

“The initial 27-page petition, filed Sept. 2 by George Washington University law professor John F. Banzhaf III — who made his bones pushing for tobacco advertising reform — requested the FCC not renew WWXX (94.3 FM)’s license because it ‘deliberately, repeatedly, and unnecessarily broadcasts the word ‘R*dskins,’ and “actively encourages or indeed forces many other broadcasters to likewise broadcast a derogatory racial and ethnic slur. . . .'”

→ Forthcoming: Op-ed on FCC flap by Robert Corn-Revere (stay tuned)

Upcoming Yale Conference: “Public Health in the Shadow of the First Amendment”

→ Hosted by: Yale Law School, Yale Medical School, and the Yale School of Public Health

Date & Time: Friday, October 17, 2014 – 1:30 pm to Saturday, October 18, 2014 – 5:00 pm

→ Description: Public Health in the Shadow of the First Amendment will bring together leading scholars, key policy makers, and top experts in law, public health and medicine. This conference, the first of its kind, will investigate a broad range of complex constitutional issues raised at the intersection of medicine, public health, and the First Amendment.

The regulation of food, medicines, and tobacco all rely crucially today on the regulation of speech, for example through behavioral marketing, disclosures, and restrictions on certain modes of commercial promotion.  First Amendment doctrine has recently changed in significant ways, bringing it into potentially deep tension with such measures.  For example, commercial speech doctrine has been used to invalidate FDA restrictions on off-label marketing of drugs, to prevent graphic warnings on cigarette packages, and to challenge calorie disclosures in restaurants.In addition, new and important questions about the limits of a legislature’s ability to mandate or forbid certain physician speech are emerging.  For example, should the First Amendment protect doctors from requirements that they provide patients with ultrasounds or medically unproven “information” in the abortion context, or mental health providers from restrictions on conducting reparative therapy for gay teens?

→ List of 26 participants here (Jack Balkin, Jane Bambauer, Alex Kozinski, Robert Post, Fred Schauer, David Vladeck, and Eugene Volokh, among others)

→ For more information, go here.

→ See also: John Robertson, “Free Speech, Medicine, and Public Health: An Overview of Issues,” Balkinization, Oct. 14, 2014

First Amendment Award to Alan Keyes

“Former Ambassador Alan Keyes, who served as a high-level Reagan-era diplomat and today continues his advocacy for the constitutional republic that is America, writing as a commentator for WND, is being honored with the Christopher Reeve First Amendment Award by the Creative Coalition, a nonpartisan political advocacy organization for the entertainment industry.The award will be presented at the annual Spotlight Awards Gala Tuesday [Oc. 14, 2014] in New York City.Keyes, who 17 years ago became the second regular columnist for WND, behind WND Founder and CEO Joseph Farah, said he was a little surprised when he was notified that he had been chosen, given that past recipients include Sean Penn, Harry Belafonte, Walter Cronkite and Rep. Charles Rangel.”

Source: Seth Johnson, “Alan Keyes to receive Christopher Reeve 1st Amendment award,” WND Faith, Oct. 14, 2014

1st Circuit: Adult-Entertainment Zoning Regulations Unconstitutional

Writing in the Constitutional Law Prof blog, Professor Ruthann Robson noted: “In its opinion in Showtime Entertainment v. Town of Mendon, the First Circuit reversed a grant a summary judgment for the Massachusetts town and found that the zoning bylaws infringed on Showtime Entertainment’s ‘right to engage in a protected expressive activited’ violated the First Amendment.”

“Judge Juan Torruella’s opinion for the unanimous panel first confronted the issue of whether the challenge to the zoning bylaws should be viewed as a facial challenge or as an as-applied challenge.  Here, there was ‘little practical distinction': there were only four plots of land within the ‘Adult Entertainment Overlay District’ to which the bylaws applied.  But because the relief sought was an invalidation of the zoning bylaws, the court treated the challenge as a facial one. Additionally, the court discussed whether the town’s actions should be judged as content-based, thus meriting strict scrutiny, or should be judged as content-nuetral, meriting intermediate scrutiny.  The court withheld its conclusion, finding that the zoning bylaws failed even the more deferential intermediate scrutiny standard.The problem for the Town was that its stated governmental interests — its proferred secondary effects — did not further a substantial governmental interest unrelated to the speech. . . .”

  The opinion: Showtime Entertainment v. Town of Mendon (1st Cir., Oct. 8, 2014)

 → Prevailing counsel: Thomas Lesser with Michael Aleo on the brief for Appellant.

Joel Gora

Joel Gora

Debating Campaign Finance: 6 Views

 Steven D. Schwinn, “Court Rejects Challenge to Disclosure Requirement,” Constitutional Law Prof Blog, Oct. 9, 2014

→ Andrew Tutt, “McCutcheon Calls for a National Referendum on Campaign Finance (Literally),” Columbia Law Review Sidebar, Oct. 13, 2014

Justin Levitt, “Electoral Integrity: The Confidence Game,” New York University Law Review (forthcoming, 2014)

→ Todd Pettys, “Campaign Finance, Federalism, and the Case of the Long-Armed Donor,” University of Chicago Law Review Dialogue (2014)

11 Scholarly Articles

Volokh Watch

Quick Hits

LastFAN Column: #35 — “Clear & Present Danger in the states — Holmes’s Legacy

Next Column: #37 — Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2014

FAN 36.1 (First Amendment News) Skover to Speak on McCutcheon Case

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By way of a shameless plug for my coauthor:

INFLUENTIAL VOICES  

David Skover

David Skover

Seattle University School of Law
is proud to present
Professor David Skover

SCOTUS Books-in-Brief: When Money Speaks: A New Venture in E-Publishing

Wednesday, October 29
Room C6, Sullivan Hall, 4:30 p.m.
Reception to follow

The event is open to all, but RSVPs are requested.

Professor Skover will speak about the creation of the SCOTUS Books-in-Brief imprint and his latest coauthored book, When Money Speaks: The McCutcheon Decision, Campaign Finance Laws, and the First Amendment.

When Money Speaks analyzes the controversial U.S. Supreme Court decision in McCutcheon v. FEC, which struck aggregate limits on contributions to political candidates. It has been called “a brilliant discussion of campaign finance in America” and “the best book on the topic.”

The SCOTUS Books-in-Brief series provides readers with reliable, informative, and engaging narrative accounts of significant Supreme Court rulings shortly after they come down.

Introduction by Dean Annette E. Clark 

 

FAN 36.2 (First Amendment News) Corn-Revere on the FCC & Redskins Controversy

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Robert Corn-Revere

Robert Corn-Revere

In case you missed it, yesterday Robert Corn-Revere had an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. The piece was titled, “Free-Speech Foes Call an Audible — Bringing the FCC into the ‘Redskins’ debate is an invitation for First Amendment mischief.”

Here is the petition to the Federal Communications Commission, the one that gave rise to the FCC controversy.

 Here is how Mr. Corn-Revere began his WSJ op-ed:

“However you may feel about the name of the National Football League franchise in Washington, D.C., do we really want the Federal Communications Commission to step into the Redskins controversy as the nation’s culture police?”

“That’s what George Washington University law professor John Banzhaf III is seeking by asking the FCC to deny the broadcast license of WWXX, the FM radio station in Washington licensed to team owner Dan Snyder. The petition, filed in September, asks the FCC to yank the broadcast license because the station “deliberately, repeatedly, and unnecessarily broadcasts the word ‘R*dskins’ during most of its broadcast day.”

“That’s right, in lieu of the team name, the petition uses ‘R*dskins.'”

“This is a publicity stunt, not a serious legal argument. It is well beyond the FCC’s statutory or constitutional authority to prohibit speech merely because some find it offensive. But the idea gained some political traction after a Sept. 30 meeting when several FCC commissioners said they would consider the issue. Such consideration should not take long if the FCC is serious about following the law.”

Corn-Revere, former chief counsel to former FCC Chairman James Quello, then proceeded to lay out his case as to why Professor Banzhaf’s petition should be denied. In the process, Corn-Revere drew on FCC precedents and experience with regulations of this general type. In the end, he predicted:

“Without even getting into the frailties of the petition’s legal arguments, it doesn’t take a seer to predict what would happen if the FCC started canceling broadcast licenses because some people in the audience may be offended by something they had heard or seen. It would be a national version of college ‘speech codes,’ which have devolved into an offended-ness sweepstakes.

“There is no doubt about the sincerity of those who object to the name Washington Redskins. But asking the FCC to silence broadcasters who disagree with them is not the solution.”

Note: Professor Banzhaf has accepted my invitation to respond. I will post it as soon as i can. Stay tuned. 

FAN 36.3 (First Amendment News) A street named Carlin

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Cardinal Carlin

Cardinal Carlin

UPDATED

Tomorrow New York City will rename a street to honor the late George Carlin, the famed comedian and inspiration for FCC v. Pacifica (1978), the infamous First Amendment case sustaining a broadcast ban on “7 dirty words.”

Although “George Carlin Way” will begin at Amsterdam and West 121st Street, because of construction the ceremony tomorrow will be one block away at Morningside Drive and West 121st Street.

 → This from Howard Wasserman: “The named block is actually not the block on which Carlin grew up, because the church there (where Carlin went to school) objected; the compromise was to move it across to Amsterdam Avenue.” [Source: go here]

  The dedication ceremony will begin at 1:00 PM.

Current line-up of speakers

The following speakers have yet to confirm:

220px-Seven_Dirty_Words_WBAIEvening Event

Tomorrow night at 7:30 PM, at Carolines on Broadway, there will be a very special night of laughter to pay tribute to the dean of counterculture comedians and to celebrate his newly minted status as a man of the streets. (I will be in NYC and plan to be at Carolines.)

Colin Quinn will host, with performances by Ted Alexandro, Kevin Bartini, Eddie Brill, Jim Norton, and special surprise guests.

For details, go here.

→ Hat tip to Josh Wheeler 

For a memorable passage from Justice William Brennan:

I find the Court’s misapplication of fundamental First Amendment principles so patent, and its attempt to impose its notions of propriety on the whole of the American people so misguided, that I am unable to remain silent.

→ Related News Item: November 4, 2014 marks the 50th anniversary of Lenny Bruce’s New York obscenity conviction, for which he was posthumously pardoned on December 23, 2003.

FAN 37 (First Amendment News) McCutcheon case produces flood of scholarly commentary — 41 works!

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UPDATED: 10-24-14

Before proceeding to the scholarly output on McCutcheon, here is where we stand this Term on First Amendment free expression cases:

Review Granted

  1. Elonis v. United States (to be argued on 12-1-14)
  2. Williams-Yulee v. The Florida Bar
  3. Reed v. Town of Gilbert

Review Pending

  1. Pregnancy Care Center of New York v. City of New York 
  2. Vermont Right to Life Committee, et al v. Sorrell
  3. Stop This Insanity Inc Employee Leadership Fund et al  v. Federal Election Commission

Review Denied

  1. City of Indianapolis, Indiana v. Annex Books, Inc.
  2. Ashley Furniture Industries, Inc. v. United States 
  3. Mehanna v. United States 

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Erin Murphy arguing in McCutcheon case

Erin Murphy arguing in McCutcheon case

The decision in McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission (2014) is barley six months old and it has already produced an abundance of scholarly commentary, including books, symposia, and articles — no fewer than 40 such works. And all of this before the revered Harvard Law Review issue dedicated to the last Supreme Court term finds its way to print. Ditto for the equally acclaimed Supreme Court Review. How times have changed. The days of waiting are over; we live in a wired era. That’s the good news. The bad news, of course, is: who can possibly begin to read all of this?

That said, and for better or worse, below is a list of books (e-books and print ones) and articles and essays (in online companions and print journals) that either discuss McCutcheon in full or in part (e.g. Zephyr Teachout’s book) or issues very much related to the decision (e.g, Robert Post’s book). All were published after the decision came down on April 2, 2014. Browse them and see how many catch your eye.

5 Books

36 Scholarly Articles or Blog Posts 

NYU Law Review: Online Symposium (2014)

Valparaiso Law Review Symposium (2014)

Harvard Law Review Forum (2014)

SCOTUSblog Symposium (2014)

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This from Fred Wertheimer of Democracy 21:

Fred Mertheimer

Fred Wertheimer

WASHINGTON—”Explaining that the measure is intended to protect politicians’ right to free expression against undue scrutiny from the general population, a new ruling [see here] implemented this week by the Federal Election Commission allows candidates running for public office to remain completely anonymous throughout the campaign process. ‘Candidates should be able to make themselves heard without having their identities, personal associations, and records on the issues exposed in the public eye,’ said agency spokesperson Wayne Branson, adding that the new policy means congressional hopefuls can avoid being personally challenged on their agendas by opting to withhold their names and likenesses from all campaign material, television commercials, FEC filings, and public appearances. ‘The fact that political candidates are no longer under any obligation to disclose who they are will ensure a freer, more open electoral process. It is our belief that elections should be about ideas and plans for the country, not about who is saying them, what that person looks like, what their background might be, if they’re qualified, or what motives they might have.’ Branson confirmed that elected candidates would then have the option to remain anonymous for the duration of their term.”

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Related News items:

Re another voting-1-A issue, see Joey Garrison, “Nashville voting site restrictions raise First Amendment concerns,” The Tennessean, Oct. 20, 2014

Tim Wu to head Poliak Center for the Study of First Amendment Issues

He is prepared to think about things in an entirely new way. — Lee Bollinger

Tim Wu

Tim Wu

According to the Columbia Daily Spectator, Columbia University “law professor and former lieutenant governor candidate Tim Wu celebrated his appointment as the head of the Journalism School’s Poliak Center for the Study of First Amendment Issues Tuesday night with a discussion about political corruption and the First Amendment. . . . Wu — who is known for his work on ‘net neutrality’ — was named the Center’s director last week.”

“‘I think the hope is to inspire a new generation of First Amendment thinking,” Wu said in an interview about his goals for the center. “In particular, [I will] focus less on the old, yet still important, aspects of civil rights and more on the practical questions of, for example, what it means to have an actual liberty of conscience. . . .'”

Professor Wu’s remarks centered on the First Amendment and its role in fostering civic republicanism, which he views as being undermined by money in politics “that makes elected officials so reliant on donors that no one wants to do the job. ‘I just boil it down to . . . whether the best and brightest are going into electoral government and asking whether the First Amendment is to blame,'” Wu added.

Headline: “Commencement Speech by Convicted Cop Killer Prompts New Law”

PHILADELPHIA– “Spurred by outcry over a recent commencement speech by a man convicted of killing a police officer, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett is scheduled to sign a bill Tuesday designed to prevent people convicted of crimes from causing their victims additional “mental anguish.”

“The measure won approval in the state legislature last week after Mumia Abu-Jamal, convicted in the 1981 shooting death of a Philadelphia police officer, delivered a pre-recorded commencement address to graduates of Goddard College in Vermont earlier this month. . . . ” (Source: WFMYNews2.com)

First Circuit Billboard Case

Judge Bruce Selya

Judge Bruce Selya

This from Professor Ruthann Robson over at Constitutional Law Prof Blog:

“Reversing the district judge, a unanimous panel of the First Circuit held that a billboard company had standing to challenge the Massachusetts regulatory scheme in Van Wagner Boston LLC v. Davey. The opinion, authored by Judge Bruce Selya who is known for his ambitious language, concludes that the complaint plausibly alleges that the plaintiffs are subject to a regulatory permitting scheme that grants an official unbridled discretion over the licensing of their expressive conduct and poses a real and substantial threat of censorship. No more is exigible to give the plaintiffs standing to proceed with their challenge.” (Continued here).

Floyd Abrams’ Op-Ed

Klinghoffer and the ‘Two Sides’ of Terrorism,” Wall Street Journal, Oct. 15, 2014.

So, in Joan Rivers ’s much repeated phrase, can we talk? Some things are easy. Mr. Adams’s opera is protected by the First Amendment and so is the Metropolitan Opera in its decision to offer it. It would be a gross and obvious constitutional violation if government sought to bar the opera from being publicly produced or imposed any punishment for doing so.Beyond that, canceling any public artistic performance because it expresses unpopular or even outrageous views is dangerous. I represented the Brooklyn Museum when then-New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani in 1999 sought to shut it down because he viewed some of its art—I use his language now—as “sick,” “disgusting” and sacrilegious. I argued then, successfully, that the mayor’s conduct violated the First Amendment.But the controversy over the Adams opera cannot be dealt with by simple reference to the First Amendment or artistic freedom. Those who direct the Metropolitan Opera made a choice when they decided to offer Mr. Adams’s opera, and it is altogether fitting that they be publicly judged by that choice.

. . . .  One can argue passionately about the Middle East, Israel or Palestinians, but nothing makes the Klinghoffer murder morally tolerable. . . .  Leon Klinghoffer’s murder was an unspeakable act. Period. His demise is not a proper subject of debate, only of mourning. And of how best to prevent future murderous attacks.

 See also: Letters-to-the Editor, “‘Klinghoffer’ Goes On, and So Does the Discord,” New York Times, Oct. 21, 2014

Nota Bene

Wendy Kaminer, “John Grisham Is Right: Looking Isn’t The Same As Touching,” Cognoscenti, Oct. 20, 2014:

In protesting lengthy prison sentences for downloading images of child porn, John Grisham was pointing out an obvious injustice: the equation of people who view child porn with people who molest children. In fact, you may even be sentenced more harshly for viewing child pornography than for molesting a child.

Volokh Watch

Last FAN Column — #36: “Forgotten Free Press Advocates — The Women Lawyers in NYT v. Sullivan

Next FAN Column — #38: Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2014

FAN 38 (First Amendment News) Abrams Institute to host conference on Net Neutrality

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abrams-logoOn November 3rd, the Floyd Abrams Institute for Freedom of Expression will host a conference entitled Net Neutrality: From Debate to Policy Decisions. The conference will take place at the Century Association located at 7 West 43rd Street in New York City. The event starts with breakfast at 7:30 a.m. and ends promptly at 9:20 a.m. Here is a description:

After several years of discussions in academia, industry, and policymaking circles, the issue of net neutrality has taken center stage in debates on U.S. media and telecommunications. In February, cable providers Comcast and Time-Warner announced their intent to merge into a single company. And this spring, the FCC solicited public input on its proposed Open Internet Rules, and FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler has stated that he expects to have enforceable rules in place by the end of 2014. Under the new rules, “behavior harmful to consumers or competition by limiting the openness to the Internet will not be permitted.” With these events as backdrop, the Abrams Institute at Yale Law School will host a panel discussion at the Century Club in New York, on the topic of net neutrality. 

After several years of discussions in academia, industry, and policymaking circles, the issue of net neutrality has taken center stage in debates on U.S. media and telecommunications. In February, cable providers Comcast and Time-Warner announced their intent to merge into a single company. And this spring, the FCC solicited public input on its proposed Open Internet Rules, and FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler has stated that he expects to have enforceable rules in place by the end of 2014. Under the new rules, “behavior harmful to consumers or competition by limiting the openness to the Internet will not be permitted.” With these events as backdrop, the Abrams Institute at Yale Law School will host a panel discussion at the Century Club in New York, on the topic of net neutrality.

Panel speakers

 Registration

A fee of $35 per person will be charged to cover the cost of the continental breakfast. Go here to register. The registration deadline is Thursday, October 30th.

 CLE Credit 

One and one half (1.5) CLE credit hours in Professional Practice (corporate) will be available for this program, which is transitional and non-transitional in nature. Preregistration is required for CLE credit.

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Petition to Watch 

At its Conference on October 31, 2014, the Court will consider the following free speech petition:

Issues: (1) Whether compelling a noncommercial pro-life speaker to declare it lacks a medical license passes strict scrutiny; and (2) whether a compelled speech law is unconstitutionally vague if the city can deem speakers as needing to comply, because of their “appearance,” without any ability for the speaker to know whether it must comply.
(Hat tip to Maureen Johnston)
Lithwick takes swipe at Roberts Court
Dahlia Lithwick

Dahlia Lithwick

In a new essay titled “The Courts’ Baffling New Math,” the ever feisty Dahlia Lithwick, the Supreme Court commentator for Slate, argues:

“The Supreme Court of the John Roberts era gets one thing very right: It’s one of the most free-speech-protective courts in modern history. There is no purveyor of semi-pornographic crush videos, no maker of rape-aspiring violent video games, no homophobic funeral protester, no anti-abortion clinic counselor, and no filthy-rich campaign contribution–seeker whose rights and privileges will not be treated by the Court with the utmost reverence and solicitude.”

Later in the same essay, Lithwick adds:

“This brings us back to the First Amendment, seemingly the only right that truly counts anymore in America. Why has the constitutional right to be heard all but overmastered the right to vote or legally terminate a pregnancy? Maybe the court is still capable of hearing even as it loses the ability to see? Or maybe the powerful voices of Fred Phelps, Shaun McCutcheon, and Anthony Elonis—the creatures who rightly are allowed to say and do horrible things in the name of free speech—count for more than the hundreds and thousands of voiceless voters and abortion-seekers who are seemingly not even important enough to name?”

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Ibrahim Hooper

Ibrahim Hooper

President of FIRE & Communications Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations Debate Bill Maher’s planned commencement address at UC Berkeley

  → Bastion of free speech, Cal Berkeley, petitioning to ban Bill Maher from speaking at graduation,” Twitchy Media, Oct. 28, 2014

  Greg Lukianoff, the president of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) and Ibrahim Hooper, the Communications Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, debate (see here)

FlaskbackChristopher Hitchens debates Ahmed Younis re Muhammad Cartoon Controversy (on YouTube)

Tribe on arguing 2 major First Amendment Cases

Over at SCOTUSblog, there is a video interview with Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. In case you missed it, here is Tribe talking about two cases he argued: Richmond Newspapers, Inc. v. Virginia (1980) (public access to trials) and Larkin v. Grendel’s Den, Inc. (1982) (the First Amendment Establishment Clause and a church’s power to control a liquor license).  Check it out.

Article on Commercial Speech ruling of Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights 

Ronan O Fathaigh

Ronan O Fathaigh

The Article: Ronan Ó Fathaigh, “Political Advertising Bans and Freedom of Expression,” Greek Public Law Journal (2014 Forthcoming)

The Abstract: “In Animal Defenders International v. United Kingdom (2013), the 17-judge Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights ruled that the UK’s ban on political advertising on television, as applied to an animal rights organisation, did not violate freedom of expression. The Court divided nine votes to eight, with the majority opinion abandoning the Court’s previous ‘strict scrutiny’ review, and laying down a new doctrine for reviewing political advertising bans. This article, first, examines the role the composition of the Grand Chamber played in the outcome of the case. Second, questions the basis of the new doctrine of review. And third, criticises the majority’s treatment of precedent.”

→ See also Wikipedia here for a chart of freedom of speech by country.

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Edgardo Simone & bust of Justice Holmes

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FAN 38.1 (First Amendment News) FIRE bursts on out in NYC — Free speech celebration draws committed crowd

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FlameandFIRE-390x195EXPLOSIVE. That is as good as any a word to describe the high energy level at the 15th Anniversary dinner of FIRE (Foundation for Individual Rights in Education), the group founded by Harvey Silvergate and  Alan Charles Kors in 1999. People were yelling “FIRE” in the crowded hall all evening long.

Some 280 people came together on Thursday evening last week at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in NYC. They gathered to show their enthusiastic support for this non-partisan free speech group. Contrary to the mood of our times, liberals, conservatives and libertarians joined together in common cause to endorse FIRE’s campaign to contest unconstitutional campus speech codes.

Guests included Radley BalkoJoan BertinPaul BloomRobert Corn-Revere, Alan Dershowitz, Norman DorsenDonald DownsJoel Gora, Jonathan HaidtWendy Kaminer, Roger KimballMichael McConnellKirsten Powers, Lenore SkenazyNadine Strossen, Matt Welch, and Karen Gantz Zahler, among others.

Morgan Freeman

Morgan Freeman

Students speak out

Aided by film clips on two big screens (see video here), four student activists who challenged campus speech codes spoke of their experiences. They were: Merritt Burch, Morgan Freeman, Chris Lee, and Robert Van Tuinen.

Two Speakers: A First Amendment Lawyer & a Cognitive Scientist 

There were two speeches, which further fired up the audience. The first speech was by the noted First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams. His remarks were entitled “Free Speech is in Trouble on Campus.” Here is an excerpt:

[O]nly FIRE … would think of and then respond to the explosion of unconstitutional speech codes that limit student and faculty speech as it did just last month by threatening over 300 colleges with litigation challenging such rules. And only FIRE would do the detailed work of reading each speech code so it could announce that 58% of public colleges and universities are, right now, acting unconstitutionally in limiting sometimes discomforting but First Amendment protected speech, on campus, and then follow that up by actually commencing lawsuits in this area. .  . . FIRE, from the day it was created, has understood this and sought to expose it and deal with it. We are in the midst of an epidemic and FIRE is providing an antidote. 

→ Steven Pinker (the  noted experimental psychologist, cognitive scientist, linguist, and popular science author and Harvard professor) spoke after Abrams.  His remarks were titled “Three Reasons to Affirm Free Speech.” Here is an excerpt from his remarks:

Free speech is the only way to acquire knowledge about the world. Perhaps the greatest discovery in human history—one that is logically prior to every other discovery—is that all of our traditional sources of belief are in fact generators of error and should be dismissed as sources of knowledge. These include faith, revelation, dogma, authority, charisma, augury, prophesy, intuition, clairvoyance, conventional wisdom, and the warm glow of subjective certainty.

Greg Lukianoff — The FIRE Man

Greg Lukianoff

Greg Lukianoff

He is like no other — Lukianoff, FIRE’s president, is a man full of ideas, energy, and the smarts to make it all work. Author, pamphleteeractivist, and Stanford Law graduate, this 40-year-old who grew up in Danbury, CT is changing the world around him by bringing the First Amendment to the doorstep of college bureaucrats bent on squelching freedom of speech and conscience. And Lukianoff and FIRE are winning; they have prevailed (either by a court victory or a settlement) in every one of the challenges they have brought — and they are busily preparing many more. Beyond the courtroom, Lukianoff regularly takes his free-speech message to the pubic, either by testifing before Congress or appearing on the O’Reilly Factor, the CBS Evening News, or by publishing an op-ed in this or that newspaper. Regardless of one’s ideological stripes, he is always prepared to make a strong case for the First Amendment.

Meanwhile, Greg Lukianoff and his colleagues at FIRE have cases pending against the following six colleges:

  1. University of Hawaii at Hilo
  2. Western Michigan University
  3. Chicago State University
  4. Citrus College
  5. Iowa State University, and
  6. Ohio University

 Full disclosure: I attended as a guest of the Davis Wright Tremaine law firm, which works with FIRE in litigating campus speech code cases.


UCLA Law Review Vol. 62, Discourse

FAN 40 (First Amendment News) Steve Shiffrin & Bob Corn-Revere debate “What’s Wrong with the First Amendment?”

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Bob Corn-Revere & Steve Shiffrin (with Joel Gora in background)

Bob Corn-Revere & Steve Shiffrin (with Joel Gora in background)

For those who savor good give-and-take talk about the First Amendment, last Wednesday evening was a memorable one as Professor Steven Shiffrin debated Robert Corn-Revere with Ashly Messenger moderating. The topic: “What’s Wrong with the First Amendment?” Why that title? Because that’s the working title of Professor Shiffrin’s next book.

The New York city event was the third in a series of First Amendment salons held at the offices of the law firm of Levine, Sullivan, Koch & Schulz. The program was introduced by Lee Levine, who announced that this was the first salon done in conjunction with the Floyd Abrams Institute for Freedom of Expression at Yale Law School. The event was video cast live to the firm’s office in Washington, D.C. and to the Abrams Institute in New Haven.

Among others, those attending the event included: Floyd Abrams, Sandra Baron, John Berger, Joan Bertin, Vince Blasi, Kali Borkoski, Karen Gantz, Joel Gora, Laura Handman, David Horowitz, Maureen Johnston, Adam Liptak, Greg Lukianoff, Tony Mauro, Wes Macleaod-Ball, David Savage, David Schulz, Paul Smith, and James Swanson.

The exchange was robust as the Cornell professor took articulate and passionate exception to several of the Roberts Court’s First Amendment rulings, including United States v. Stevens, Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association, and United States v. Alvarez – all cases in which Corn-Revere had an amicus’ hand in defending the free speech claims. No potted plant, the First Amendment lawyer fired back with facts, figures, and history as the two men debated the pros and cons of balancing vs strict scrutiny approaches to free speech decision-making. The animated discussion was always friendly and at times even funny as the two traded witty retorts.

The dialogue was enriched as Vince Blasi, Katherine Bolger, Joan Bertin, Paul Smith, James Swanson, and Floyd Abrams, among others, weighed in. As the discussion developed one could almost see minds bouncing back-and-forth as Ms. Messenger pressed the two seasoned First Amendment experts. The evening ended on a high note as Shiffrin and Corn-Revere laughed and shook hands. (Re earlier salons, see here and here.)

Coming soon: book by Seana Shiffrin 

UnknownThe Shiffrin name has long been a familiar one in First Amendment circles — a name that has both invited and provoked thought. Now comes another Shiffrin, UCLA philosophy and law Professor Seana Shiffrin, who is a scholar in her own right — someone quite attune to jurisprudential nuance.

If the case of United States v. Alvarez (2012) — the Stolen Valor case — caught your attention, and if you were intrigued by Chief Judge Alex Kozinki’s separate opinion in the case when it was before the Ninth Circuit, then Speech Matters: On Lying, Morality, and the Law (Princeton University Press, Dec. 21, 2014) by Seana Shiffrin is a book for you. And it is more, philosophically much more.

Here is the publisher’s description of the forthcoming book: “To understand one another as individuals and to fulfill the moral duties that require such understanding, we must communicate with each other. We must also maintain protected channels that render reliable communication possible, a demand that, Seana Shiffrin argues, yields a prohibition against lying and requires protection for free speech. This book makes a distinctive philosophical argument for the wrong of the lie and provides an original account of its difference from the wrong of deception.”

“Drawing on legal as well as philosophical arguments, the book defends a series of notable claims — that you may not lie about everything to the “murderer at the door,” that you have reasons to keep promises offered under duress, that lies are not protected by free speech, that police subvert their mission when they lie to suspects, and that scholars undermine their goals when they lie to research subjects.”

“Many philosophers start to craft moral exceptions to demands for sincerity and fidelity when they confront wrongdoers, the pressures of non-ideal circumstances, or the achievement of morally substantial ends. But Shiffrin consistently resists this sort of exceptionalism, arguing that maintaining a strong basis for trust and reliable communication through practices of sincerity, fidelity, and respecting free speech is an essential aspect of ensuring the conditions for moral progress, including our rehabilitation of and moral reconciliation with wrongdoers.”

Table of Contents

Chapter 1: Lies and the Murderer Next Door 5

Chapter 2: Duress and Moral Progress 47

Chapter 3: A Thinker-Based Approach to Freedom of Speech 79

Chapter 4: Lying and Freedom of Speech 116

Chapter 5: Accommodation, Equality, and the Liar 157

Chapter 6: Sincerity and Institutional Values 182

I plan to say more about this book in the coming year. Stay tuned.

UnknownNew book by Danish editor of newspaper that published cartoons of Mohammad

The author: Fleming Rose 

The book: The Tyranny of Silence (Cato Institute, Nov. 14, 2014)

Description: “When the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten (Viby, Denmark) published the cartoons of the prophet Mohammed nine years ago, Denmark found itself at the center of a global battle about the freedom of speech. The paper’s culture editor, Flemming Rose, defended the decision to print the 12 drawings, and he quickly came to play a central part in the debate about the limitations to freedom of speech in the 21st century. Since then, Rose has visited universities and think tanks and participated in conferences and debates around the globe in order to discuss tolerance and freedom. In The Tyranny of Silence, Flemming Rose writes about the people and experiences that have influenced the way he views the world and his understanding of the crisis, including meetings with dissidents from the former Soviet Union and ex-Muslims living in Europe. He provides a personal account of an event that has shaped the debate about what it means to be a citizen in a democracy and how to coexist in a world that is increasingly multicultural, multi-religious, and multi-ethnic.”

See Fleming Rose here re his recent appearance on The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell.  

1-A groups urge school district to select books “solely on sound educational grounds”

“A group of First Amendment organizations sent a letter Monday to Highland Park ISD leaders urging them to choose books and instructional materials “solely on sound educational grounds.”

In a letter sent earlier this week, the “group, led by New York-based National Coalition Against Censorship, warned the school district against making curriculum decisions based on “some notion of ‘decency’ or ‘community standards,’ terms that are inherently vague and subjective.”

“Highland Park ISD officials and parents have been embroiled in debate for the past few months after some parents said the content of some high school books was too mature for teens. They raised objections about sex scenes and references to rape, abortion and abuse. . . .” The letter was sent on behalf of the following groups:

  • the National Coalition Against Censorship
  • the American Booksellers Foundation For Free Expression
  • the Association of American Publishers
  • the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund
  • the National Council of Teachers of English
  • PEN American Center and
  • the Society of Children’s Book Writers & Illustrators.

→ Source: Melissa Repko for the Dallas Morning News (Nov. 10, 2014)

Revenge Porn Laws: Federal law being considered, state law being challenged

Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D-Cal.) continues to work away on proposed legislation concerning “revenge porn,” this with assistance from University of Miami Law Professor Mary Anne Franks. In that regard, Professor Franks has stated: “To date, I have advised legislators in 18 states and D.C. in the drafting of laws prohibiting the non-consensual distribution of intimate images, several of which have already passed. I am currently working with Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D-CA) on a federal criminal law protecting sexual privacy. An up-to-date list of states that have laws prohibiting non-consensual pornography can be found here; the National Conference on State Legislature’s resource page on state revenge porn legislation is here. You can find out more about the campaign to end revenge porn here.” Meanwhile, tech companies, civil liberties groups, and other stakeholders are being consulted in order to help facilitate the drafting of the proposed law.

→ At the state level, several groups have filed a complaint in federal court challenging the constitutionality of an Arizona Revenge Porn law (Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 13-1425). On November 3, 2014, the Media Coalition filed a motion for preliminary injunction asking the U.S. District Court to block enforcement of the law while the lawsuit is pending.

→ Related news items:  Anne Kim, “Addressing Celebrity Nude Photo Leaks and Revenge Porn: the First Amendment Question,” TechnoCrat, Nov. 7, 2014

→ Gerry Smith, “Now Women Are Getting Arrested For Revenge Porn,” Huffington Post, ct. 21, 2014

→ Related book: Danielle Citron, Hate Crimes in Cyberspace (Harvard University Press, 2014)

→ Related article: John A. Humbach, “How to Write a Constitutional ‘Revenge Porn’ Law,” SSRN (Oct. 30, 2014)

American Library Association Releases Study on the Impacts of the Children’s Internet Protection Act

→ Kristen R.Batch, Fencing out Knowledge (Policy Brief # 5: June 2014)

Some of the findings include the following ones:

  1. Filtering in Libraries Causes Patron Needs to Go Unmet
  2. Filtering in Schools Goes Far Beyond the Legal Mandate of CIPA
  3. Disproportionate Impact of CIPA
  4. Alternatives to Over-filtering: Digital Literacy and Digital Inclusion

The recommendations include the following ones:

  1. Increase awareness of the spectrum of filtering choices.
  2. Develop a toolkit for school leaders
  3. Establish a digital repository of internet filtering studies
  4. Conduct research to explore the educational uses of social media platforms and assess the impact of filtering in schools.

Schauer reviews Post’s Citizens Divided book

→ Frederick Schauer, “Constitutions of Hope & Fear” (forthcoming Yale Law Journal, 2014)

Professor Fred Schauer

Professor Fred Schauer

Abstract:  This review essay for the Yale Law Journal of Robert Post’s Citizens Divided: Campaign Finance Reform and the Constitution contrasts Post’s hopeful and optimistic vision of discursive democracy, and its accompanying hopeful and optimistic visions of the Constitution and the First Amendment, with the more fearful and risk-averse visions well-captured by Winston Churchill’s famous observation that “democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.” Although Post’s vision is attractive in a more hopeful or even utopian way, the more pessimistic vision of democracy, of constitutionalism, and of freedom of speech, arguably exemplified in the title of John Hart Ely’s Democracy and Distrust, is distrustful of government, distrustful of legislative power, distrustful of courts, and even distrustful of public discourse. And although this essay does not seek to determine as a matter of ideal theory which vision is superior, it does suggest that, pace Post, the vision of fear and distrust may fit better with existing American constitutional doctrine and traditions. Along the way, the essay also endorses substantial campaign finance regulation but questions, against Post and many others, whether drawing a line between the speech of corporations and the speech of natural persons is consistent with either free speech doctrine or the soundest underlying justifications for a free speech principle.”

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FAN 40.1 (First Amendment News) Banzhaf responds to Corn-Revere on FCC Redskins Flap

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Professor John Banzhaf

Professor John Banzhaf, III

In an earlier post I profiled Robert Corn-Revere’s WSJ op-ed entitled “Free-Speech Foes Call an Audible — Bringing the FCC into the ‘Redskins’ debate is an invitation for First Amendment mischief.” The op-ed was written in critical response to a petition filed by George Washington Law Professor John Banzhaf to the Federal Communications Commission concerning the use of the Washington Redskins’ name on broadcast airwaves. At the end of my blog profile I invited Professor Banzhaf to respond, which he has now done. His response is set out below.

Robert Corn-Revere apparently objects that I have asked the FCC not to renew the broadcast license of a station that repeatedly and unnecessarily broadcasts a word which has been found in several legal proceedings to be a racial slur even when applied to an NFL team – “R*dskins,” the so-called R-word, equivalent to the N-word so hateful to African Americans, and never used on the air – and is even so defined in most dictionaries. But, in an apparent attempt to prove some point, he describes at length a major life-saving step I persuaded the FCC to take, and (perhaps deliberately) overlooks several obvious points.

In 1966 I persuaded the FCC with one filing (far shorter than the one now in question, and one which many likewise called “frivolous” at the time) to apply a largely unknown and moribund principle – the “Fairness Doctrine” — to cigarette advertising. The result was that anti-smoking messages were broadcast on radio and TV for the first time — hundreds of millions of (1968) dollars worth. This caused the country’s first major drop in cigarette consumption; estimated by itself to have saved millions of lives. It also led directly to a ban on cigarettes commercials; something which saved even more lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars in health care costs. [See  Banzhaf, et al. v. Federal Communications Commission, et al. (D.C. Cir., 1968, per Bazelon, C.J.)]

imagesThose who seek to hide behind the First Amendment argued then, as Corn-Revere does now, that both moves — first forcing stations to broadcast statements against smoking, and then banning them from running cigarette commercials — violated Free Speech, but I successfully defended both decisions in court. Thus, I was able to persuade the FCC to make one of its most important and significant decisions ever — one which saved millions of lives and got rid of cigarette commercials — yet Corn-Revere criticizes the fact that the FCC granted my request, apparently because the Fairness Doctrine was later abandoned. Yet this makes as much sense as criticizing the Special Prosecutor legislation (which I also had a hand in bringing into effect) — which helped save the country from a major constitutional crisis during Watergate — because it likewise was eventually allowed to expire.

He also fails to mention another FCC filing of mine that forced the major TV stations in DC — and eventually around the country – to begin featuring African Americans as reporters and in other significant on-air positions. That one, like the one he now criticizes and seeks to belittle, was likewise based on allegations of racism. Corn-Revere also fails to note how many of my other agency petitions, likewise derided as “frivolous” and/or publicity stunts at the time, were granted and were successful: in getting women admitted, for the first time, to the Cosmos Club and to formerly all-male state-supported military academies; in restricting and ultimately banning smoking on airplanes; in changing labels on foods, birth control pills and elsewhere; in striking down various forms of sex-based price discrimination, etc.

Although Corn-Revere opines (citing no authority) that my petition has no legal basis, three former FCC commissioners (including a former Chairman), as well as almost a dozen broadcasting law superstars, have publicly stated that such broadcasts are probably illegal under current law. The current FCC Chairman has stated that my petition will be taken seriously and evaluated on its merits, something he would not have said if it were obviously “a publicity stunt, not a serious legal argument.” And other broadcast law attorneys who oppose the petition have been forced to admit that it will at the very least likely hold up the license renewals of the stations for a considerable period of time, impacting their credit ratings, their ability to sell or transfer assets, etc.

Given that at least one TV station lost its license based upon allegations of racism, and that the FCC previously ruled that racial slurs constituted “profanity” (which cannot be broadcast during prime time), the tremendous value of a station’s broadcast license, and my track record in persuading the FCC and many other agencies to take unprecedented steps in response to imaginative petitions many said had no chance of success, given all that the question is: Should stations ignore this new movement and continue to bet the farm (their FCC licenses), simply to be able to say “R*dskins” rather than “DC” or “Washington” when providing the sports scores or otherwise talking about this NFL team?

UCLA Law Review Vol. 62, Discourse

FAN 41 (First Amendment News) Three Harvard Law Review essays discuss Justice Breyer’s free speech jurisprudence

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  • Judge Breyer has a unique zig-zag style. Ralph Nader (confirmation hearing statement, July 15, 1994)
  • I do not rest my conclusion upon a strict categorical analysis. – Justice Stephen Breyer (concurring in United States v. Alvarez, June 28, 2012)
  • The single most important area of Breyer’s work on the Court has been his opinions on the First Amendment, in which he has developed a unique and pathbreaking approach to issues of freedom of speech. — Paul Gewirtz (Yale Law Journal, 2006)
Justice Stephen Breyer

On the one hand . . . but then on the other

When it comes to free speech, he is darling of the Liberal Left . . . or some on the Left, or of some on the Left in the legal academy, or of those on the Left who abhor rulings such as Citizens United v. FEC (2010) and McCutcheon v. FEC (2014). To others, he is the Justice who got the First Amendment right (albeit in dissent) in cases such as Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project (2010) and Garcetti v. Ceballos (2006). Many of those same defenders shy away from their praise when it comes to opinions such as the one Justice Breyer authored in Randall v. Sorrell (2006).

In his pragmatist approach, one will readily discern the vernacular of ad hoc balancing, of  “competing constitutional concerns” or “First Amendment interests . . . on both sides of the legal equation.” Mindful of such concerns, he asks: Are the “restrictions on speech disproportionate when measured against their speech-related benefits”? And why? What is the purpose of such balancing? He responds: to “facilitate a conversation among ordinary citizens that will encourage their informed participation.” To that end, government may limit speech in the supposed service of “preserving a democratic order” or for the purpose of promoting and protecting  “collective speech.” In this way an others, and dating back to his 1997 concurrence in Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. v. FCC II, Stephen Breyer has set out to rewrite First Amendment jurisprudence.

In light of his two decades of service on the Supreme Court, I thought I would offer some background information on how the Justice has decided First Amendment free expression cases (29 are listed below), his thoughts on free speech generally, and how scholars and lawyers have viewed his jurisprudence in this area. A sketch of all of that is set out below by way of select references to various sources.

HLR Essays in Honor of Justice Breyer 

The November issue of the Harvard Law Review has a collection of essays in honor of Justice Stephen Breyer’s twenty years of service on  the United States Supreme Court. The following three essays concern the Justice’s free speech jurisprudence:

Let me pose a hypothetical

Let me pose a hypothetical: “Candidate Smith — we can only give him $2,600 — has a lot of supporters.”

Active Liberty: Justice Breyer on Free Speech

In his 2005 book, Active Liberty: Interpreting our Democratic Constitution, Justice Breyer devoted a chapter (pp. 39-55) to the question of free speech.

Roberts Court Era: Justice Breyer’s Majority or Plurality Opinions in Free Expression Cases

In what follows, S indicates that a majority of the Court sustained the First Amendment claimed whereas D means that it was denied.

Separate Opinions: Below is a list of separate opinions authored by Justice Breyer in free expression cases decided during the Roberts Court era:

a pensive moment

the pensive pragmatist

Justice Breyer’s Pre-Roberts Court Opinions: Selected Cases 

First Circuit Free Expression Opinions

Commentaries on Justice Breyer’s Free Speech Jurisprudence  

Breyer’s Clerkship with Justice Goldberg (1964-1965)

During the period when Stephen Breyer served as one of the two law clerks to Justice Arthur Goldberg, the Justice wrote a First Amendment opinion in Cox v. Louisiana (argued Oct. 21, 1964, decided on Jan. 18, 1965). Some of the conference notes for the case, which include notes from Justice Goldberg and his change of vote, are set out in Del Dickson, ed.,  The Supreme Court in Conference: 1940-1985 (2001) at 323-327. It is unknown if Breyer worked on the Cox opinion or had any involvement with it — but perhaps he did?

Two Interviews with Justice Breyer

Go here to see National Constitution Center President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen’s 2014 video-recorded interview with Justice Breyer.

Go here to see Charlie Rose’s 2010 video-recorded interview with Justice Breyer.

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THE COURT’S 2014 FREE EXPRESSION DOCKET

Review Granted

  1. Elonis v. United States (to be argued on 12-1-14)
  2. Williams-Yulee v. The Florida Bar
  3. Reed v. Town of Gilbert

Review Pending

  1. Vermont Right to Life Committee, et al v. Sorrell
  2. Stop This Insanity Inc Employee Leadership Fund et al  v. Federal Election Commission
  3. Berger v. American Civil Liberties Union of North Carolina
  4. Walker v. Texas Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans

Review Denied

  1. Pregnancy Care Center of New York v. City of New York 
  2. City of Indianapolis, Indiana v. Annex Books, Inc.
  3. Ashley Furniture Industries, Inc. v. United States 
  4. Mehanna v. United States

ACLU & Electronic Frontier Foundation prevail in challenge to sex-offender reporting requirement

According to an Associated Press story by Paul Elias: “Registered sex offenders in California don’t have to disclose their email addresses, Internet service providers, screen names and other electronic information to authorities as required by a voter-approved law, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said those requirements violated the free speech rights of about 73,000 sex offenders who have served their prison terms. The ruling upholds a lower court’s order.”

The case is Doe v. Harris (9th Cir., Nov. 18, 2014). The opinion for the three-judge panel was authored by Senior District Judge Jay S. Bybee. Judge Bybee ruled that registered sex offenders who have completed their terms of probation and parole enjoy the full protection of the First Amendment. He also held that since the law imposes a substantial burden on sex offenders’ ability to engage in legitimate online speech, and to do so anonymously, First Amendment scrutiny was warranted. Applying intermediate scrutiny, Judge Bybee concluded that the law unnecessarily chilled protected speech in the following three ways:

  1. it does not make clear what sex offenders are required to report;
  2. it provides insufficient safeguards preventing the public release of the information sex offenders do report; and
  3. the 24-hour reporting requirement is onerous and overbroad. The panel concluded that appellees were likely to succeed on the merits of their First Amendment challenge and that the district court did not abuse its discretion in deciding that all the necessary elements for obtaining a preliminary injunction were satisfied.

The lawyers for the Plaintiffs-Appellees were: Michael T. Risher (argued), Linda Lye, American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Northern California, Inc., San Francisco, California; Hanni Fakhoury, and Lee Tien, Electronic Frontier Foundation, San Francisco, California. .

imagesEugene Volokh & others challenge California ban on advertising handguns

California law (Cal. Civil Code § 26820) provides: “No handgun or imitation handgun, or placard advertising the sale or other transfer thereof, shall be displayed in any part of the premises where it can readily be seen from the outside.”

Earlier this week UCLA Law Professor Eugene Volokh, Bradley Benbrook and Stephen Duvernay challenged that law in a federal district court in Sacramento with Judge Troy L. Nunley presiding. The case is Tracy Rifle & Pistol LLC. v. Harris (E.D. Cal.). The case is being supported by the California Association of Federal Firearms Licensees, the Calguns Foundation, and the Second Amendment Foundation.

In their motion for a preliminary injunction, the lawyers for the four plaintiff firearms dealers make the following First Amendment arguments:

  1. the California law is presumptively invalid becauses it imposes a content and speaker based burden on protected expression
  2. and that the law fails the test of Central Hudson Gas & Electric Corp. v. Public Service Commission (1980)

They begin their motion this way:

The sale of handguns is not only legal—it is constitutionally protected. The First Amendment protects truthful, nonmisleading commercial speech promoting lawful products or services, but especially when the products or services are themselves protected by other constitutional rights, such as the right to abortion or the right to buy contraceptives.1 What is true for unenumerated constitutional rights must be at least as true for the enumerated right to bear arms, which includes the right to possess and acquire handguns.

The hearing on the motion is set for January 29, 2014.

See Jacob Gershman, “Gun Dealers Sue California Over Store Advertising Ban,WSJ Online, Nov. 12, 2014 (and Volokh Conspiracy story here)

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A culture of critique depends on tolerance. — Lars Svendsen

41R84t7ZMKLFew noted philosophers since Alexander Meiklejohn (1872-1964) untrained in the law have grappled with the issue of free speech. If you are wondering about Ronald Dworkin (1931-2013), well, he was educated at Harvard Law School as was Professor Frederick Schauer. Of course, there are Thomas Nagel and T.M. Scanlon — two respected philosophers who have written on free speech jurisprudence. Now, a Scandinavian philosopher has weighed in on the topic, especially in ways that resonate with certain modern tenets of American free speech jurisprudence. 

Enter Lars Svendsen, the acclaimed Norwegian philosopher who teaches at the University of Bergen. In his recently translated book A Philosophy of Freedom (Reaktion Books, 2014), Professor Svendsen devotes a chapter to the subject of free speech — this under the grander rubric of “The Politics of Freedom.” Though the theory of free speech sketched out in this book is, to be sure, part of a larger portrait concerning freedom generally, I want to flag a few points that may be of interest our to readers.

There is much of value in A Philosophy of Freedom concerning everything from the meaning of critique to the meaning of John Stuart Mill’s “harm principle.” But what most captured my attention and interest was Svendsen’s discussion of tolerance, a concept he finds key to the principle of free speech in a democratic culture.

What does it mean for a liberal society to be tolerant, truly tolerant? Among other works, this question was examined in Professor Scanlon’s The Difficulty of Tolerance (2003) and two books edited by Raphael Cohen-Almagor: The Scope of Tolerance: Studies on the Costs of Free Expression and Freedom of the Press (2006) and Liberal Democracy and the Limits of Tolerance (2000).

Now Professor Svendsen offers his own answers; he begins by way of etymology: the word derives from the Latin tolerantia, meaning “to abide or endure.” The word is also associated with pain. By that measure, to be tolerant is to suffer the agony of words or ideas or forms of expression that are hard or even painful to bear. If speech does not really bother or offend us,  Svendsen argues, then there is no need to be tolerant. By contrast, and as John Locke stressed in his Letter Concerning Toleration (1689), toleration is hard to stomach; it eats away at our moral, political, cultural, or ideological core.

Professor Lars Svendsen

Professor Lars Svendsen

As Professor Svendsen sees it, toleration requires three things: “(1) that an individual take a negative view of something; (2) that it is in the individual’s power to do away with or oppose it; and (3) that the individual refrains from doing just that.” If that is the conceptual yardstick, at least two problems arise. First, there is (as I tag it) the problem of false fidelity. That is, though we claim to be tolerant, we are often intolerant. And that’s the rub — the problem of a society losing its toleration for toleration. Second, there is (again, as I label it) the problem of confused fidelity. Or as Svendsen puts it: “the tolerance idea has degenerated in our day” — it is  to commonly “interpreted to mean some form of approval, or at least ‘recognition,’ of that which one tolerates.” Of course, this “is completely to confuse the logic of tolerance . . . .”

To navigate these jurisprudential waters Svendsen emphasizes the difference between legal tolerance and moral tolerance. That we yield to the former does not mean that we must succumb to the latter. Hence, one might tolerate hate speech as a legal matter but rail against it as a moral matter. In other words, to draw upon Professor Svendsen’s words, “we can both defend the right to express something and criticize the expression itself.” The other side of this conceptual coin is the Brandeisian idea that “the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.” These are lessons that are often forgotten as evidenced by everything from campus speech codes to attempts to silence non-fradulent commercial speech. And what about counter speech when it comes to the likes of the Westboro Baptist Church folks? Some pursue that First Amendment path (see here) while others, like Senators Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell and 40 members of Congress, prefer to abridge such speech (see hereWalter Dellinger was their lead lawyer).

A few final thoughts: Can we really separate morality from law? And what would that mean? Are we okay with moral relativism? These are not rhetorical questions. Hardly. But they are questions we need to consider. In United States v. Playboy (2000) Justice Anthony Kennedy tendered one answer: “The Constitution no more enforces a relativistic philosophy or moral nihilism than it does any other point of view. The Constitution exists precisely so that opinions and judgments, including esthetic and moral judgments about art and literature, can be formed, tested, and expressed. What the Constitution says is that these judgments are for the individual to make, not for the Government to decree, even with the mandate or approval of a majority.”

Then again, and as Professors Steven Shiffrin and Jesse Choper have asked in their First Amendment casebook: “Should the First Amendment be a means of institutionalizing a national commitment to the value of tolerance? By tolerating the intolerable, would we care out one area of social interaction for extraordinary self-restraint and thereby develop and demonstrate a vital social capacity? And “wholly apart from any message that group libel statutes signal about our polity, do group libel statutes safeguard individual rights to dignity that outweigh any expressive interest in this context?”

Perhaps we might Professor Svendsen to share his thoughts on such matters.  Stay tuned.

See also: Frederick Schauer, “Modeling Tolerance” (2014)

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